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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Pull is Mostly Evil
Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 04:18:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqe3wqp0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20140502214817.GA10801@sigill.intra.peff.net

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:11:05PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>
>> Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> > If we step back a bit, because we are forcing him to differentiate
>> > these two pulls in his mental model anyway, perhaps it may help
>> > people (both new and old) if we had a new command to make the
>> > distinction stand out more.  What if the command sequence were like
>> > this instead?
>> > 
>> >     $ git checkout maint
>> >     $ git update [ origin maint ]
>> > 
>> >     $ git pull [--no-ff] developer-remote topic-branch
>> >     $ git push [ origin maint ]
>> > 
>> > where the new command 'update' enforces the '--ff-only' update.  And
>> > then we would stop telling "'git pull' first" when a push does not
>> > fast-forward.
>> 
>> In addition to barf when it's not a fast-forward, such command can
>> switch the parents, so it appears 'maint' was merged to 'origin/maint'.
>> Many people have complained about this order.
>
> I realize this has veered off into talking about an "update" command,
> and not necessarily "pull", but since there a lot of proposals floating
> around, I wanted to make one point: if we are going to do such a switch,
> let's please make it something the user explicitly turns on.

A safety catch defaulting to a factory position of "off" is not going to
stop inexperienced people from shooting themselves in the foot.

-- 
David Kastrup

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-03  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-02 15:37 Pull is Mostly Evil Marc Branchaud
2014-05-02 15:45 ` David Kastrup
2014-05-02 16:05   ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-02 19:05     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 22:34       ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-02 22:53         ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-05-03 20:24           ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-02 23:23         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03 11:24           ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-03 11:30             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 19:31   ` David Lang
2014-05-02 19:37     ` David Kastrup
2014-05-02 18:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-02 19:11   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 20:06     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-02 20:58       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 21:48     ` Jeff King
2014-05-02 21:55       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 22:36         ` Jeff King
2014-05-02 23:27           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03  2:18       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-05-06 22:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-06 22:19         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03  7:56   ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-03  8:17     ` David Kastrup
2014-05-03  9:04       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03  9:56         ` David Kastrup
2014-05-04  4:30           ` David Lang
2014-05-04  4:38             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04  6:13               ` David Kastrup
2014-05-04  6:50               ` James Denholm
2014-05-04  7:48                 ` David Kastrup
2014-05-04  9:51                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04 10:37                   ` James Denholm
2014-05-04 11:02                     ` David Kastrup
2014-05-03  9:26     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03 22:09       ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-04  3:08         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04  7:49           ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-04 10:17             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04 19:09               ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-04 21:13                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-05  5:44                   ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-05  5:47                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-07 22:37     ` Max Kirillov
2014-05-03 10:00   ` John Szakmeister
2014-05-05 15:39     ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-05 18:15       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 22:12 ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-09 19:49 ` Marc Branchaud

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