Hi Vladimir, On 8/18/21 12:31 AM, Vladimir Oltean wrote: > > So it's a circular dependency? Switch cannot finish probing because it > cannot connect to PHY, which cannot probe because switch has not > finished probing, which.... > > So how is it supposed to be solved then? Intuitively the 'mdio_bus SMI-0:00' > device should not be added to the deferred list, it should have everything > it needs right now (after all, it works without fw_devlink). No? If I understand correctly, it's just the probing of the PHY driver that is getting deferred. This happens both when everything is builtin, and when the switch driver (realtek-smi in my case) is built as a module. Additionally, when the switch is finished probing, the PHY driver doesn't actually get probed. I'm not sure if this is because it has been replaced with the Generic PHY driver in the mean time. What's strange is that if I unload the switch driver module and reload it, this time the PHY driver _does_ get probed on demand. I have attached a debug log which illustrates the difference. Please note that this is using a subdriver of realtek-smi which I have not yet posted to the list, but the semantics are the pretty much same as rtl8366rb. See here: 1st load: [ 83.659809] device_add:3270: device: 'SMI-0:00': device_add [ 83.659883] bus_add_device:447: bus: 'mdio_bus': add device SMI-0:00 [ 83.659970] device_pm_add:136: PM: Adding info for mdio_bus:SMI-0:00 [ 83.660122] device_add:3270: device: 'platform:ethernet-switch--mdio_bus:SMI-0:00': device_add [ 83.660274] devices_kset_move_last:2701: devices_kset: Moving SMI-0:00 to end of list [ 83.660282] device_pm_move_last:203: PM: Moving mdio_bus:SMI-0:00 to end of list [ 83.660293] device_link_add:859: mdio_bus SMI-0:00: Linked as a consumer to ethernet-switch [ 83.660350] __driver_probe_device:736: bus: 'mdio_bus': __driver_probe_device: matched device SMI-0:00 with driver RTL8365MB-VC Gigabit Ethernet [ 83.660365] device_links_check_suppliers:1001: mdio_bus SMI-0:00: probe deferral - supplier ethernet-switch not ready 2nd load: [ 138.945901] device_add:3270: device: 'SMI-0:00': device_add [ 138.946003] bus_add_device:447: bus: 'mdio_bus': add device SMI-0:00 [ 138.946097] device_pm_add:136: PM: Adding info for mdio_bus:SMI-0:00 [ 138.946309] __driver_probe_device:736: bus: 'mdio_bus': __driver_probe_device: matched device SMI-0:00 with driver RTL8365MB-VC Gigabit Ethernet [ 138.946326] really_probe:561: bus: 'mdio_bus': really_probe: probing driver RTL8365MB-VC Gigabit Ethernet with device SMI-0:00 I don't know the gory details of the driver core so I am reluctant to provide an explanation, but I hope it makes things clear. Kind regards, Alvin