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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 2/3] net: reduce cycles spend on ICMP replies that gets rate limited
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:15:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1484154911.21472.68.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1483983850.5846.4.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

On Mon, 2017-01-09 at 09:44 -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-01-09 at 16:04 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > This patch split the global and per (inet)peer ICMP-reply limiter
> > code, and moves the global limit check to earlier in the packet
> > processing path.  Thus, avoid spending cycles on ICMP replies that
> > gets limited/suppressed anyhow.
> > 
> > The global ICMP rate limiter icmp_global_allow() is a good solution,
> > it just happens too late in the process.  The kernel goes through the
> > full route lookup (return path) for the ICMP message, before taking
> > the rate limit decision of not sending the ICMP reply.
> > 
> > Details: The kernels global rate limiter for ICMP messages got added
> > in commit 4cdf507d5452 ("icmp: add a global rate limitation").  It is
> > a token bucket limiter with a global lock.  It brilliantly avoids
> > locking congestion by only updating when 20ms (HZ/50) were elapsed. It
> > can then avoids taking lock when credit is exhausted (when under
> > pressure) and time constraint for refill is not yet meet.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
> > ---
> 
> 
> Acked-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>

Remaining problem :

A moderate load (1000 packets per second) of UDP packets from a rogue
source (not even spoofing source IP) to a closed port will consume all
the (global) budget, even if the per destination budget allows one ICMP
per second.

Meaning that single UDP message sent by other sources are not able to
get an ICMP in response.

This makes ICMP much less useful (unlikely to be sent by a host)

In my commit (4cdf507d5452 : icmp: add a global rate limitation) I gave
this hint :

<quote>
Note that if we really want to send millions of ICMP messages per
second, we might extend idea and infra added in commit 04ca6973f7c1a
("ip: make IP identifiers less predictable") :
add a token bucket in the ip_idents hash and no longer rely on inetpeer.
</quote>

The idea would be to use a hash table to quickly filter elephant flows,
preventing them from stealing all the global ICMP credits.

Or if you prefer, no longer use control variables stored in inetpeer.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-11 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-09 15:03 [net-next PATCH 0/3] net: optimize ICMP-reply code path Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-01-09 15:04 ` [net-next PATCH 1/3] Revert "icmp: avoid allocating large struct on stack" Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-01-09 17:42   ` Cong Wang
2017-01-09 17:50     ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-09 17:59       ` Cong Wang
2017-01-09 18:07         ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-09 18:52           ` David Miller
2017-01-09 20:53             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-01-10 18:06             ` Cong Wang
2017-01-10 18:12               ` David Miller
2017-01-10 18:44                 ` Cong Wang
2017-01-10 18:48                   ` Cong Wang
2017-01-10 18:54                   ` David Miller
2017-01-12 22:46                     ` Cong Wang
2017-01-10 20:08                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-01-10 21:48                     ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-12 22:21                       ` Cong Wang
2017-01-10 21:41                 ` Joe Perches
2017-01-09 19:33           ` Joe Perches
2017-01-10 18:01           ` Cong Wang
2017-01-09 18:47         ` David Miller
2017-01-09 17:42   ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-09 15:04 ` [net-next PATCH 2/3] net: reduce cycles spend on ICMP replies that gets rate limited Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-01-09 17:44   ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-11 17:15     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2017-06-04  7:11   ` Florian Weimer
2017-06-04 14:38     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-06-05 14:22       ` Florian Weimer
2017-01-09 15:04 ` [net-next PATCH 3/3] net: for rate-limited ICMP replies save one atomic operation Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-01-09 17:44   ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-09 17:43 ` [net-next PATCH 0/3] net: optimize ICMP-reply code path Cong Wang
2017-01-09 17:56   ` Eric Dumazet
2017-01-09 20:49 ` David Miller

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