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From: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	wanpeng.li@hotmail.com, mst@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rkrcmar@redhat.com, dmatlack@google.com,
	agraf@suse.de, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] sched/idle: update poll time when wakeup from idle
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 15:30:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d7251cf-e04f-5216-b622-e1864557935e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170829124655.ann5cipoubl5lppn@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2017/8/29 20:46, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:46:41AM +0000, Yang Zhang wrote:
>> In ttwu_do_wakeup, it will update avg_idle when wakeup from idle. Here
>> we just reuse this logic to update the poll time. It may be a little
>> late to update the poll in ttwu_do_wakeup, but the test result shows no
>> obvious performance gap compare with updating poll in irq handler.
>>
>> one problem is that idle_stamp only used when using CFS scheduler. But
>> it is ok since it is the default policy for scheduler and only consider
>> it should enough.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>
> 
> Same broken SoB chain, and not a useful word on why you need to adjust
> this crap to begin with. What you want that poll duration to be related
> to is the cost of a VMEXIT/VMENTER cycle, not however long we happened
> to be idle.

Actually, we should compare the cost of VMEXIT/VMENTER with the real 
duration in idle. We have a rough number of the cost for one 
VMEXIT/VMENTER(it is about 2k~4k cycles depends on the underlying CPU) 
and it introduces 4~5 VMENTER/VMEXITs in idle path which may increase 
about 7us latency in average. So we set the poll duration to 10us by 
default.

Another problem is there is no good way to measure the duration in idle. 
avg_idle is the only way i find so far. Do you have any suggestion to do 
it better? Thanks.

-- 
Yang
Alibaba Cloud Computing

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-01  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-29 11:46 [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] x86/idle: add halt poll support Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] x86/paravirt: Add pv_idle_ops to paravirt ops Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46   ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 13:55   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-29 13:55     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-30  7:33     ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-30  7:33     ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-01  6:50     ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-01  6:50     ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] KVM guest: register kvm_idle_poll for pv_idle_ops Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] sched/idle: Add poll before enter real idle path Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 12:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01  5:57     ` Quan Xu
2017-09-14  8:41       ` Quan Xu
2017-09-14  9:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-08-29 14:39   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-01  6:49     ` Quan Xu
2017-09-29 10:39       ` Quan Xu
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] x86/paravirt: Add update in x86/paravirt pv_idle_ops Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] Documentation: Add three sysctls for smart idle poll Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46   ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 17:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-29 17:20   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-29 17:20     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] KVM guest: introduce smart idle poll algorithm Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 11:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] sched/idle: update poll time when wakeup from idle Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01  7:30     ` Yang Zhang [this message]
2017-09-29 10:29     ` Quan Xu
2017-08-29 11:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] x86/idle: add halt poll support Alexander Graf
2017-09-01  6:21   ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 13:03 ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-29 14:02 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-08-29 14:27   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-29 14:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-01  6:32   ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-01  6:52     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-09-01  6:44   ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-01  6:58     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-09-01  7:53       ` Yang Zhang
2017-08-29 14:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-13 11:56   ` Yang Zhang
2017-09-14  8:36     ` Quan Xu
2017-09-14  9:19       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-09-14  9:40         ` Quan Xu

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