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From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup...
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:22:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031010002248.GE7665@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F85ED01.8020207@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 04:19:29PM -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
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> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > User space shouldn't know or care about frsize, and it doesn't even 
> > necessarily make any sense on a lot of filesystems, so make it easy for 
> > the user. It's not as if the rounding errors really matter.
> 
> There have been numerous requests to add a statvfs syscall, at least
> made to me.  The problem is that the emulation through statfs cannot be
> optimal.  The emulation has to get all kinds of additional information
> (like mount flags) which in some cases lead to hangs or delays.

Umm...  I don't see anything equivalent to statfs(2) ->f_type in statvfs(2).
->f_frsize makes no sense for practically all filesystems we support.
->f_namemax is not well-defined ("maximum filename length" as in "you won't
see filenames longer than..." or "attempt to create a file with name longer
than... will fail" or "longer than that and I'm truncating";  and that is
aside of lovely questions about the meaning of "length" - strlen()?  number
of multibyte characters accepted by that fs? something else?)
->f_fsid is also practically undefined (and left 0 by practically every fs,
so no userland code can do anything useful with it).
->f_flag might be useful, all right.  However, I'd like to see real-world
examples of code (Solaris, whatever) that would use it in any meaningful
way...

Conclusion: if we care about something like statvfs(), it should *not* have
the statvfs() interface.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-10  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-09 22:16 statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup Trond Myklebust
2003-10-09 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 23:19   ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-10-10  0:22     ` viro [this message]
2003-10-10  4:49       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10  5:26         ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 12:37           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 13:46             ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 14:35               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 15:32                 ` Misc NFSv4 (was Re: statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup...) Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 15:53                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 16:07                     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 15:55                   ` Michael Shuey
2003-10-10 16:20                     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 16:45                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2003-10-10 14:39               ` statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup Jamie Lokier
2003-10-09 23:31   ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 12:27   ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 14:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 15:27       ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:00         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 16:26           ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:50             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:33               ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 17:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 18:13                   ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:27           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-10 16:33           ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:07               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:21                 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:01         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 16:33           ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:58             ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:05               ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 17:20               ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 17:33                 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:54                   ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 18:05                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 20:40                       ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 21:09                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 22:17                           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-11  2:53                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-11  3:47                       ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 18:05                   ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 18:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-10 20:33                     ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-10 20:07             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-12 15:31             ` Greg Stark
2003-10-12 16:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-12 22:09                 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-13  8:45                   ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-15 13:25                     ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-15 15:03                       ` Greg Stark
2003-10-15 18:37                         ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-16 10:29                         ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-16 14:02                           ` Greg Stark
2003-10-21 11:47                             ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-10 18:20           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-10 18:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 19:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-09 23:16 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-09 23:24   ` Linus Torvalds

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