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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Anton Vorontsov <avorontsov@ru.mvista.com>
Cc: Linuxppc-dev Development <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: removing get_immrbase()??
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:00:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090423160048.GC19717@ld0162-tx32.am.freescale.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090423135005.GA18462@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru>

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 05:50:05PM +0400, Anton Vorontsov wrote:
> As for Freescale parts, all the reference board I've seen were
> very friendly wrt upgrading their device-trees, i.e. none of
> the boards were shipping with device-tree soldered into the
> firmware.

But many of them have broken when a dtb that u-boot didn't like was
inserted.

> And note that most developers are using up-to-date firmwares
> (U-Boots), device trees, and kernels. 

So then why did we have to make cuImage?

> And that means that old device-tree + new kernel combination is left
> untested for years. And untested stuff is broken stuff, by definition.

There's a difference between risking that something may be broken, and
gratuitously making it broken.

> Sure, there is a completely different story wrt device-tree
> changes that might break firmwares. And that I believe we'd
> better avoid. For example device_type = "soc", if removed,
> most firmwares would not fix-up {clock,bus}-frequency properties.

Even if the given change may not break the firmware, it could force an
update in which a prior change breaks the firmware.

-Scott

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-23 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-22 18:38 removing get_immrbase()?? Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 19:35 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 20:16   ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 20:16     ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 20:20       ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 21:31       ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 21:33         ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 21:39           ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 21:46             ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 21:54               ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 21:57                 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 22:07                   ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 22:00               ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 22:00                 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 13:54             ` Grant Likely
2009-04-22 21:38         ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 21:55           ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 22:33             ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23  0:03               ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23  2:26             ` David Gibson
2009-04-23  3:36               ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-23  4:06                 ` David Gibson
2009-04-23  4:41                   ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-28  4:12                     ` David Gibson
2009-04-28 13:48                       ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 13:07                 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 15:56                 ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23 13:02               ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 13:50                 ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 14:02                   ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 14:06                     ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-23 14:09                       ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-24 14:40                       ` Wrobel Heinz-R39252
2009-04-23 14:13                     ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 16:00                   ` Scott Wood [this message]
2009-04-23 16:54                     ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 17:03                       ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23 17:26                         ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 17:59                           ` Scott Wood
2009-04-28  4:25                   ` David Gibson
2009-04-28  4:21                 ` David Gibson
2009-04-23 13:53         ` Grant Likely
2009-04-23 14:03           ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-28  4:26           ` David Gibson
2009-04-22 19:44 ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 20:00   ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 20:30   ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23 13:53 ` Arnd Bergmann

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