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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Bo Yang <struggleyb.nku@gmail.com>,
	Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>,
	Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: jn/commit-no-change-wo-status (Re: What's cooking in git.git (Aug 2010, #02; Wed, 11))
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:15:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100812031508.GC19174@burratino> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=5biMga0=nAVwQLNd1jEJXXtUJBqdhuyt-YoWv@mail.gmail.com>

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> But I don't know, the "git commit" output doesn't confuse me so I'm
> not in the target audience.

For what it’s worth, I had three scenarios in mind:

Getting started
---------------

One way to learn a program is to just try things.  Some people take
this practice to an extreme and unforunately (1) would expect “git
commit” to do the same thing as “cvs commit” and (2) would not want to
read a manual or a long stream of text when it does not do so.

I hope we can streamline that process somehow, for example by
starting the output with the error message:

 $ git commit
 fatal: no changes added to commit
 hint: use 'git add' and 'git reset' to update what will be committed
 hint: you have 37 untracked files; use 'git status' to list them

24-line terminal
----------------

When I forget to stage changes, the previous output in the terminal’s
scrollback buffer may give a reminder of what those changes were.
The current “git status” output makes that information harder to find.

For the same reason, I basically never use git status without -s.
Before status --short existed, I used diff-files and ls-files -o.
Now I generally use “add -u”, “diff --cached”, and “add/reset -p”.

Need reminder of changes
------------------------

Some people forget where they are and would be confused if “git
commit” just failed without explaining why.  They need an indication
of what just happened and what they need to try to do to fix it up.

For such people, the existing output is fine.  With a successful
series, the new output would also be fine, and running “git checkout”
or “git status” would seem the most natural thing in the world rather
than an imposition.

Hope that helps.
Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-12  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-11 23:35 What's cooking in git.git (Aug 2010, #02; Wed, 11) Junio C Hamano
2010-08-12  1:41 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-12  2:33   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-12  3:15     ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2010-08-12  5:47 ` Elijah Newren
2010-08-12 15:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-12 21:12     ` Elijah Newren
2010-08-12  9:23 ` Johannes Sixt
2010-08-12  9:37   ` Greg Brockman
2010-08-12 10:11     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-12 22:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-12 22:13       ` Greg Brockman
2010-08-12 22:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-12 10:20   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-12 11:35     ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-08-12 16:50       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-12 17:34         ` Chris Packham
2010-08-12 18:35           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-12 22:19             ` windows smoke tester (was Re: What's cooking in git.git (Aug 2010, #02; Wed, 11)) Chris Packham
2010-08-12 22:29               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-12 22:58                 ` Chris Packham
2010-08-13  1:01                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-14  0:42                     ` Chris Packham
2010-08-14  0:46                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-15  0:54                       ` Tay Ray Chuan
2010-08-15  1:08                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-15 17:39                           ` Tay Ray Chuan
2010-08-12 10:21   ` What's cooking in git.git (Aug 2010, #02; Wed, 11) Ilari Liusvaara
2010-08-12 10:31     ` Johannes Sixt
2010-08-12 15:25       ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-08-12 12:43   ` Elijah Newren
2010-08-12 22:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-12 21:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-12 22:40   ` jn/apply-filename-with-sp (Re: What's cooking in git.git (Aug 2010, #02; Wed, 11)) Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-12 22:46     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-12 23:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-13  0:59       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-13 21:44     ` Johannes Sixt
2010-08-14  2:27       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-14 18:37         ` Johannes Sixt
2010-08-15  0:05           ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-19  1:45           ` [PATCH v2 0/3] apply: handle traditional patches with space in filename Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-19  1:46             ` [PATCH 1/3] apply: split quoted filename handling into new function Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-19  1:48             ` [PATCH 2/3] tests: exercise "git apply" with weird filenames Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-19  1:50             ` [PATCH 3/3] apply: handle traditional patches with space in filename Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-19 19:56             ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Johannes Sixt
2010-08-20  6:26               ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-13  0:08   ` jn/svn-fe Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-13 10:18     ` jn/svn-fe Jakub Narebski
2010-08-13 21:33     ` jn/svn-fe Johannes Sixt
2010-08-13 23:47       ` [PATCH v2 jn/svn-fe 0/5] vcs-svn: Port to Windows Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-13 23:59         ` [PATCH 1/5] compat: add strtok_r() Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-14  0:01         ` [PATCH 2/5] vcs-svn: Rename dirent pool to build on Windows Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-14  0:03         ` [PATCH 3/5] vcs-svn: Avoid %z in format string Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-14  0:04         ` [PATCH 4/5] t9010 (svn-fe): use Unix-style path in URI Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-14  0:06         ` [PATCH 5/5] t9010 (svn-fe): avoid symlinks in test Jonathan Nieder

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