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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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	ctalbott-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	jmoyer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Fengguang Wu
	<fengguang.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] writeback and cgroup
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:02:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120404230237.GA2173__13985.6743081056$1333580575$gmane$org@dhcp-172-17-108-109.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120404203239.GM12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hello, Vivek.

On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:32:39PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > Let's say we have iops/bps limitation applied on top of proportional IO
> > distribution
> 
> We already do that. First IO is subjected to throttling limit and only 
> then it is passed to the elevator to do the proportional IO. So throttling
> is already stacked on top of proportional IO. The only question is 
> should it be pushed to even higher layers or not.

Yeah, I know we already can do that.  I was trying to give an example
of non-trivial IO limit configuration.

> So split model is definitely confusing. Anyway, block layer will not
> apply the limits again as flusher IO will go in root cgroup which 
> generally goes to root which is unthrottled generally. Or flusher
> could mark the bios with a flag saying "do not throttle" bios again as
> these have been throttled already. So throttling again is probably not
> an issue. 
> 
> In summary, agreed that split is confusing and it fills a gap existing
> today.

It's not only confusing.  It's broken.  So, what you're saying is that
there's no provision to orchestrate between buffered writes and other
types of IOs.  So, it would essentially work as if there are two
separate controls controlling each of two heavily interacting parts
with no designed provision between them.  What the....

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-04 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 262+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-03 18:36 [RFC] writeback and cgroup Tejun Heo
2012-04-03 18:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-03 18:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 14:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 14:51   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 15:36   ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-04 15:36     ` Steve French
2012-04-04 15:36     ` Steve French
2012-04-04 18:56     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:56       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:19       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 19:19         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-25  8:47         ` Suresh Jayaraman
2012-04-25  8:47           ` Suresh Jayaraman
2012-04-25  8:47           ` Suresh Jayaraman
     [not found]         ` <20120404191918.GK12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  8:47           ` Suresh Jayaraman
     [not found]       ` <20120404185605.GC29686-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 19:19         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <CAH2r5mtwQa0Uu=_Yd2JywVJXA=OMGV43X_OUfziC-yeVy9BGtQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 18:56       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:49   ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:49     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 18:49     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:23     ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-04 19:23       ` Steve French
     [not found]       ` <CAH2r5mvP56D0y4mk5wKrJcj+=OZ0e0Q5No_L+9a8a=GMcEhRew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-14 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20120404184909.GB29686-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 19:23       ` Steve French
2012-04-04 20:32       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-14 11:53       ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-04 20:32     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 20:32       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20120404203239.GM12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 23:02         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-04-04 23:02       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 23:02         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 23:02         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:38     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:38       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20120405163854.GE12854-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-05 17:13         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 17:13           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 17:13           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-14 11:53     ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 11:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 11:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16  1:25       ` Steve French
     [not found]   ` <20120404145134.GC12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 15:36     ` Steve French
2012-04-04 18:49     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-07  8:00     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-07  8:00   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-07  8:00     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20120407080027.GA2584-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 16:23       ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-10 18:06       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 16:23     ` [Lsf] " Steve French
2012-04-10 16:23       ` Steve French
2012-04-10 16:23       ` Steve French
     [not found]       ` <CAH2r5mvLVnM3Se5vBBsYzwaz5Ckp3i6SVnGp2T0XaGe9_u8YYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 18:16         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:16       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:16         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:06     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 18:06       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20120410180653.GJ21801-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 21:05         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 21:05           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 21:05           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]           ` <20120410210505.GE4936-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 21:20             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 21:20           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-10 21:20             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120410212041.GP21801-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-10 22:24               ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 22:24             ` Jan Kara
2012-04-10 22:24               ` Jan Kara
     [not found]               ` <20120410222425.GF4936-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 15:40                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:40                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:40                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:45                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 15:45                     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20120411154531.GE16692-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 17:05                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 17:05                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 17:05                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 17:23                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 17:23                         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                         ` <20120411172311.GF16692-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 19:44                           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 19:44                             ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 19:44                             ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                       ` <20120411170542.GB16008-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 17:23                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-17 21:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 21:48                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 21:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 21:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-18 18:18                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-18 18:18                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                         ` <20120417214831.GE19975-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18 18:18                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                   ` <20120411154005.GD16692-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-11 15:45                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-11 19:22                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-14 12:25                     ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-11 19:22                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-11 19:22                     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                     ` <20120411192231.GF16008-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-12 20:37                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-12 20:37                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-12 20:37                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-12 20:51                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-12 20:51                           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                           ` <20120412205148.GA24056-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-14 14:36                             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-14 14:36                               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:57                               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 14:57                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-24 11:33                                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24 11:33                                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24 14:56                                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 14:56                                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 14:56                                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 14:56                                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-24 15:58                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-24 15:58                                       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                       ` <20120424155843.GG26708-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  2:42                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  2:42                                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  2:42                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  2:42                                         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                                     ` <20120424145655.GA1474-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 15:58                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-25  3:16                                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  3:16                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  9:01                                         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-25  9:01                                           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-25  9:01                                           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                                           ` <20120425090156.GB12568-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25 12:05                                             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25 12:05                                               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25  9:01                                         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                                 ` <20120416145744.GA15437-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 11:33                                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:57                               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-15 11:37                         ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 11:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 11:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                         ` <20120412203719.GL2207-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-12 20:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-15 11:37                           ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 22:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:01                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-18  6:30                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-18  6:30                         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                       ` <20120417220106.GF19975-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18  6:30                         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-14 12:25                   ` [Lsf] " Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 12:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 12:54                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 12:54                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 12:54                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 13:07                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 13:07                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:19                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:19                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 14:19                           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-16 15:52                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 15:52                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-16 15:52                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                           ` <20120416155207.GB15437-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17  2:14                             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-17  2:14                               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-17  2:14                               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                       ` <20120416125432.GB12776-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-16 13:07                         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20120403183655.GA23106-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 14:51   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 17:51   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 17:51     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 17:51     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 18:35     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 18:35       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20120404183528.GJ12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 21:42         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 21:42           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-04 21:42           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-05 15:10           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 15:10             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120405151026.GB23999-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-06  0:32               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  0:32             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  0:32               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-05 15:10           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 18:35     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 19:33     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:33       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-04 19:33       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-06  9:59       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  9:59         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-06  9:59         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-17 22:38         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:38         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:38           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-17 22:38           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-19 14:23           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-19 14:23             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-19 14:23             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-19 18:31             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-19 18:31               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <20120419183118.GM10216-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 12:45                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 12:45               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 12:45                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 19:29                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-20 19:29                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-20 21:33                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 21:33                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-22 14:26                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:26                       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                     ` <20120420213301.GA29134-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-22 14:26                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 12:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-23 12:30                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-23 12:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-23 16:04                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23 16:04                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20120423123011.GA8103-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 16:04                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20120420192930.GR22419-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 21:33                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 19:29                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-19 18:31             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-19 20:26             ` Jan Kara
2012-04-19 20:26               ` Jan Kara
2012-04-19 20:26               ` Jan Kara
2012-04-20 13:34               ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 13:34                 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-20 19:08                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 19:08                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 19:08                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20120420190844.GH32324-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-22 14:46                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:46                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:46                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-22 14:46                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 16:56                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23 16:56                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23 16:56                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20120423165626.GB5406-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24  7:58                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24  7:58                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-24  7:58                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-25 15:47                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-25 15:47                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-25 15:47                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-23  9:14                 ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23  9:14                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23  9:14                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23 10:24                   ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 10:24                     ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 12:42                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23 12:42                       ` Jan Kara
2012-04-23 14:31                       ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 14:31                         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                       ` <20120423124240.GE6512-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 14:31                         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-23 12:42                     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                   ` <20120423091432.GC6512-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-23 10:24                     ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]               ` <20120419202635.GA4795-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-20 13:34                 ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]           ` <20120417223854.GG19975-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 14:23             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  6:57         ` Jan Kara
2012-04-18  6:57           ` Jan Kara
2012-04-18  7:58           ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  7:58             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  7:58             ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]           ` <20120418065720.GA21485-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18  7:58             ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-18  6:57         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]       ` <20120404193355.GD29686-RcKxWJ4Cfj1J2suj2OqeGauc2jM2gXBXkQQo+JxHRPFibQn6LdNjmg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-04 20:18         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 20:18           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-04 20:18           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 16:31           ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 16:31             ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-05 17:09             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-04-05 17:09               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120405163113.GD12854-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-05 17:09               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20120404201816.GL12676-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-05 16:31             ` Tejun Heo
2012-04-06  9:59         ` Fengguang Wu
2012-04-03 18:36 Tejun Heo

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