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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:30:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120430203053.GB20420@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29495.1335816956@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 09:15:56PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Try 86,400 seconds - the actual granularity of atime on VFAT.
> 
> 24 hours?  Really?  I guess it makes the updating of atime on the media
> something you can be lazy about.
> 
> > (For mtime it's 2 seconds, and for ctime 0.01 seconds.)

Does it actually support ctime, or is there some confusion here between
unix ctime and file creation time?

> Sigh.  Okay.  Ugh.  I guess I need separate granularities after all...  Not
> only that, but a 32-bit integer isn't sufficiently capacious to hold the full
> range I now know about (1nS up to 1 day).
> 
> I wonder if granularity should be left to a statfsxat() syscall?
> 
> And I know Linus didn't like it, but I wonder if I can pack it in to a 32-bit
> word either by doing an x * 10^y thing.

Does it matter if we don't get vfat's atime granularity exactly right?
Is anyone ever going to use it for anything?

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-30 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-19 14:05 [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call David Howells
2012-04-19 14:05 ` David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 3/6] xstat: AFS: Return extended attributes David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 4/6] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
     [not found]   ` <20120419140653.17272.95035.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 14:35     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-19 14:35       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 13:52   ` David Howells
2012-04-19 14:07 ` [PATCH 5/6] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
     [not found]   ` <20120419140706.17272.72290.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 15:19     ` Steve French
2012-04-19 15:19       ` Steve French
2012-04-19 16:32 ` [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call Roland McGrath
2012-04-19 21:51   ` Paul Eggert
2012-04-19 23:05     ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 14:16     ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <20173.1335449760-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 18:22         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 18:22           ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]   ` <4F9088D6.9020203-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 14:04     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 14:04       ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <19638.1335449047-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 18:24         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 18:24           ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-19 23:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:54 ` David Howells
     [not found]   ` <19184.1335448455-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 18:25     ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 18:25       ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 23:54       ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]   ` <20120426182524.E5ADF2C0EC-j1d2VQoJOwwHfwO+Tb3JRVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 21:54     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 21:54       ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <9931.1335477281-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 22:02         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 22:02           ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 22:21           ` Nix
2012-04-26 14:25 ` David Howells
2012-04-26 14:54   ` Steve French
     [not found]     ` <CAH2r5mv1Lijdwk5zsQwYJr4Etb6fhrRyNXm-iFCQX+HecboGrQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 15:25       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 15:25         ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 16:56         ` Steve French
2012-04-26 16:56           ` Steve French
     [not found]           ` <CAH2r5mt5af-_hxBRKK72iD5Gr99bo91ec78Rov8EGVEx8=21mA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:00             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:00               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:03               ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:03                 ` Steve French
     [not found]                 ` <CAH2r5mvmCfLrxRHje6Wx5X84zxPEHwRMUJGsjvWBujMu7w841w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:06                   ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:06                     ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]                     ` <1335460011.9701.30.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:09                       ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:09                         ` Steve French
     [not found]                         ` <CAH2r5muXk+frkFz9X523Ny=RMwJGeqOPH75G1ToNa5QoMo5SkQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:10                           ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:10                             ` Steve French
2012-04-26 21:57                       ` David Howells
2012-04-26 21:57                         ` David Howells
     [not found]                         ` <10104.1335477476-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 22:05                           ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 22:05                             ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]                             ` <20120426220552.D98D62C0D3-j1d2VQoJOwwHfwO+Tb3JRVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27  0:33                               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-27  0:33                                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-27  0:30                           ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-27  0:30                             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 15:52   ` David Howells
2012-04-27  0:29     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-27  0:29       ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]     ` <3F302713-B675-4BAA-B2B7-235E03C5975F-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27  9:19       ` David Howells
2012-04-27  9:19         ` David Howells
     [not found] ` <20120419140558.17272.74360.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 14:06   ` [PATCH 1/6] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06     ` David Howells
2012-04-19 23:36     ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]     ` <20120419140612.17272.57774.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 21:29       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-24 21:29         ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <20120424212911.GA26073-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 22:08           ` Steve French
2012-04-24 22:08             ` Steve French
2012-04-25 14:44           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-25 14:44             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:45         ` David Howells
     [not found]           ` <18765.1335447954-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 14:28             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-26 14:28               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-26 17:06               ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:06                 ` Steve French
2012-04-26 13:32     ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <18195.1335447156-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27  0:51         ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  0:51           ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  3:11           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-27  3:11             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:40     ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <18533.1335447617-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 14:23         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-26 14:23           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-30 16:27       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-04-30 20:15         ` David Howells
2012-04-30 20:30           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2012-04-30 23:31             ` Ben Hutchings
2012-04-19 14:06   ` [PATCH 2/6] xstat: Ext4: Return extended attributes David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06     ` David Howells
     [not found]     ` <20120419140625.17272.23303.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 16:03       ` Steve French
2012-04-19 16:03         ` Steve French
2012-04-26 13:47     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 17:00       ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:00         ` Steve French
2012-04-19 14:07   ` [PATCH 6/6] xstat: eCryptFS: " David Howells
2012-04-19 14:07     ` David Howells
2012-04-19 17:11   ` [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call Steve French
2012-04-19 17:11     ` Steve French
2012-04-27  1:06   ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  1:06     ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  3:22     ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]       ` <ED5B8F1B-6C99-4516-85FA-A767E94B635F-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-28  0:38         ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-28  0:38           ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-28  0:54           ` Steve French
2012-05-08 20:19   ` Extended file stat: Splitting file- and fs-specific info? David Howells
2012-05-08 20:19     ` David Howells
2012-05-08 21:13     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-05-08 21:13       ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]     ` <16281.1336508382-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09  0:24       ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09  0:24         ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09  1:09         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  1:09           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  4:25           ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09 11:14             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09 11:14               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  1:16         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09  1:16           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10  9:23         ` David Howells
     [not found]           ` <14477.1336641794-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 16:05             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10 16:05               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10 17:10             ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-10 17:10               ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-11  8:54               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09  9:21     ` David Howells
2012-05-09  9:21       ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <20170.1336555274-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 11:19         ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09 11:19           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <20120509111958.GA11345-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 11:55             ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 11:55               ` Bernd Schubert
     [not found]               ` <4FAA5B24.1020306-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 12:05                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09 12:05                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                   ` <20120509120544.GA17535-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 12:25                     ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 12:25                       ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 13:51                       ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09 14:12                         ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-10  9:14     ` David Howells
2012-05-10  9:14       ` David Howells
2012-04-27  9:39 ` [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call David Howells
     [not found]   ` <4111.1335519545-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27 13:13     ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27 13:13       ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27 15:10       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <20120427151057.GA16580-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27 16:32           ` Steve French
2012-04-27 16:32             ` Steve French
2012-04-27 19:31       ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-28  0:58         ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-10  9:51         ` David Howells

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