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From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: Sai Gurrappadi <sgurrappadi@nvidia.com>
Cc: "peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <Dietmar.Eggemann@arm.com>,
	"yuyang.du@intel.com" <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
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	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@arm.com>,
	"pang.xunlei@zte.com.cn" <pang.xunlei@zte.com.cn>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Boonstoppel <pboonstoppel@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFCv4 PATCH 00/34] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 14:47:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513134753.GA26396@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5552799E.2060507@nvidia.com>

Hi Sai,

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:07:26PM +0100, Sai Gurrappadi wrote:
> 
> On 05/12/2015 12:38 PM, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > Test results for ARM TC2 (2xA15+3xA7) with cpufreq enabled:
> > 
> > sysbench: Single task running for 3 seconds.
> > rt-app [4]: mp3 playback use-case model
> > rt-app [4]: 5 ~[6,13,19,25,31,38,44,50]% periodic (2ms) tasks
> > 
> > Note: % is relative to the capacity of the fastest cpu at the highest
> > frequency, i.e. the more busy ones do not fit on little cpus.
> > 
> > A newer version of rt-app was used which supports a better but slightly
> > different way of modelling the periodic tasks. Numbers are therefore
> > _not_ comparable to the RFCv3 numbers.
> > 
> > Average numbers for 20 runs per test (ARM TC2).
> > 
> > Energy		Mainline	EAS		noEAS
> > 
> > sysbench	100		251*		227*
> > 
> > rt-app mp3	100		63		111
> > 
> > rt-app 6%	100		42		102
> > rt-app 13%	100		58		101
> > rt-app 19%	100		87		101
> > rt-app 25%	100		94		104
> > rt-app 31%	100		93		104
> > rt-app 38%	100		114		117
> > rt-app 44%	100		115		118
> > rt-app 50%	100		125		126
> 
> Hi Morten,
> 
> What is noEAS? From the numbers, noEAS != Mainline?

Sorry, that should have been more clear.

Mainline:	tip/sched/core (not really mainline yet...)
EAS:		tip/sched/core + RFCv4 + EAS enabled.
noEAS:		tip/sched/core + RFCv4 + EAS disabled.

The main differences between plain tip/sched/core and EAS disabled is
that PELT is frequency invariant which affects the decisions in
period/idle/nohz_idle balance.

> Maybe also have some perf numbers to show that perf is in fact preserved
> while lowering power.

Couldn't agree more. Energy numbers on their own do not say much. I
hinted at the sysbench performance in the (trimmed) text further down.
The increase in energy for EAS is due to doing more work (higher
performance). The rt-app runs with task utilization in the lower end
should deliver the same level of performance as none of the cpus are
fully utilized. The little cpus have a capacity of 43% each. At the
higher end I would expect performance to be different. EAS tries its
best to put heavier tasks on the big cpus where mainline may choose a
different task distribution hence performance is likely to be different
like it is for sysbench.

A performance metric for rt-app is under discussion but not there yet.
We will work on getting that sorted as the next thing so we can see any
performance impact.

Thanks,
Morten

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-13 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-12 19:38 [RFCv4 PATCH 00/34] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 01/34] arm: Frequency invariant scheduler load-tracking support Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 02/34] sched: Make load tracking frequency scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 03/34] arm: vexpress: Add CPU clock-frequencies to TC2 device-tree Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 04/34] sched: Convert arch_scale_cpu_capacity() from weak function to #define Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 05/34] arm: Update arch_scale_cpu_capacity() to reflect change to define Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 06/34] sched: Make usage tracking cpu scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 07/34] arm: Cpu invariant scheduler load-tracking support Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 08/34] sched: Get rid of scaling usage by cpu_capacity_orig Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 09/34] sched: Track blocked utilization contributions Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 10/34] sched: Include blocked utilization in usage tracking Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 11/34] sched: Remove blocked load and utilization contributions of dying tasks Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-13  0:33   ` Sai Gurrappadi
2015-05-13  0:33     ` Sai Gurrappadi
2015-05-13 13:49     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-19 14:22       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 12/34] sched: Initialize CFS task load and usage before placing task on rq Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 13/34] sched: Documentation for scheduler energy cost model Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-20  4:04   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2015-05-20  9:27     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 14/34] sched: Make energy awareness a sched feature Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 15/34] sched: Introduce energy data structures Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 16/34] sched: Allocate and initialize " Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 17/34] sched: Introduce SD_SHARE_CAP_STATES sched_domain flag Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 18/34] arm: topology: Define TC2 energy and provide it to the scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 19/34] sched: Compute cpu capacity available at current frequency Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 20/34] sched: Relocated get_cpu_usage() and change return type Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 21/34] sched: Highest energy aware balancing sched_domain level pointer Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 22/34] sched: Calculate energy consumption of sched_group Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-21  7:57   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2015-05-22 15:38     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 23/34] sched: Extend sched_group_energy to test load-balancing decisions Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:38 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 24/34] sched: Estimate energy impact of scheduling decisions Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 25/34] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-22 19:48   ` [PATCH] sched: Fix compiler errors for NO_SMP machines Abel Vesa
2015-05-23 14:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-23 19:22       ` Abel Vesa
2015-06-30  9:35   ` [RFCv4 PATCH 25/34] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator pang.xunlei
2015-06-30  9:35     ` pang.xunlei
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 26/34] sched: Store system-wide maximum cpu capacity in root domain Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 27/34] sched, cpuidle: Track cpuidle state index in the scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 28/34] sched: Count number of shallower idle-states in struct sched_group_energy Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 29/34] sched: Determine the current sched_group idle-state Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 30/34] sched: Add cpu capacity awareness to wakeup balancing Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 31/34] sched: Energy-aware wake-up task placement Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-14 14:03   ` Dietmar Eggemann
     [not found]   ` <OF168B7415.9556008C-ON48257E45.003388D7-48257E45.00349D8D@zte.com.cn>
2015-05-14 15:10     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 32/34] sched: Consider a not over-utilized energy-aware system as balanced Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 33/34] sched: Enable idle balance to pull single task towards cpu with higher capacity Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 19:39 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 34/34] sched: Disable energy-unfriendly nohz kicks Morten Rasmussen
2015-05-12 22:07 ` [RFCv4 PATCH 00/34] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling Sai Gurrappadi
2015-05-12 22:07   ` Sai Gurrappadi
2015-05-13 13:47   ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2015-06-28 20:26     ` Abel Vesa
2015-06-29  9:06       ` pang.xunlei
2015-06-29 10:19         ` Dietmar Eggemann

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