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From: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"David Vrabel" <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
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Subject: Re: HVMLite / PVHv2 - using x86 EFI boot entry
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:40:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160413104003.GN2829@codeblueprint.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160413101515.GJ2829@codeblueprint.co.uk>

On Wed, 13 Apr, at 11:15:15AM, Matt Fleming wrote:
> 
> For 1. we'd basically be using the PE/COFF file format with the EFI
> ABI as an OS agnostic boot protocol, but not as a full firmware
> runtime environment.

To add some balance to this proposal (since there's no such thing as a
free lunch) some of the disadvantages are,

The PE/COFF stub in Linux does assume that it is executing in native
cpu mode and does not perform any mode switching, i.e. from 32-bit
protected to long mode. This is due to the way that EFI works - by the
time the OS image entry point is jumped to on a 64-bit cpu we're
running in long mode with identity mapped page tables. To be fair,
when running Xen on EFI (bare metal) this would save you one cpu mode
switch when compared with the current HVMLite proposal.

I'm not aware of a direct equivalent for ELF notes in the PE/COFF
format. I'm still re-reading the spec to find something suitable.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-13 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-06  2:40 HVMLite / PVHv2 - using x86 EFI boot entry Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-06  9:40 ` David Vrabel
2016-04-06  9:40 ` David Vrabel
2016-04-08 20:40   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-08 20:40   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-11  5:12     ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-11  5:12     ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-12 21:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-13  9:02         ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-13 10:15           ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-13 10:15           ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-13 10:40             ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-13 10:40             ` Matt Fleming [this message]
2016-04-13 11:12             ` George Dunlap
2016-04-13 11:12             ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2016-04-13 11:59             ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-15 22:53               ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-15 22:53               ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-13 11:59             ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-13  9:02         ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-12 21:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-13 18:29       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 18:29       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 18:56         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 20:40           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 20:40           ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 21:08             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 22:23               ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14  1:01                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-14 18:40                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 18:40                   ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 19:56                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-14 19:56                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-14 20:56                       ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15  2:02                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-15  2:02                         ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-15 17:08                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 17:08                           ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 10:06                         ` Julien Grall
2016-04-15 10:06                         ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2016-04-15 14:55                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 18:44                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-04-15 18:44                             ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2016-04-15 14:55                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 20:56                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14  1:01                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 22:23               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-06 11:07 ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2016-04-06 15:02   ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-06 16:05     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-06 16:23       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 21:53         ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-08 21:53         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 10:03     ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-13 10:03     ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-13 10:21       ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-13 10:21       ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-06 15:02   ` Matt Fleming
2016-04-07 18:51   ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-08 14:16     ` George Dunlap
2016-04-08 21:58       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-12 22:12         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 10:05           ` George Dunlap
2016-04-13 18:54             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14  9:42               ` George Dunlap
2016-04-14 19:59                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 19:59                 ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14  9:42               ` George Dunlap
2016-04-13 18:54             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 10:05           ` George Dunlap
2016-04-13 10:25           ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-13 10:25           ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-13 19:10             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 19:10             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-12 22:12         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13  9:54         ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-13 18:50           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 18:50           ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 19:02             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 19:14               ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 19:22                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 20:01                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 20:01                   ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 20:11                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 20:35                       ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 20:48                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 20:35                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 10:13                 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-14 10:13                 ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2016-04-13 19:14               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13  9:54         ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-04-08 21:58       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-08 14:16     ` George Dunlap
2016-04-13 15:44     ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2016-04-13 19:52       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 19:52       ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14  9:53         ` George Dunlap
2016-04-14  9:53         ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2016-04-14 19:44           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 20:38             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-14 21:12               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 21:12               ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15  2:14                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-15  2:14                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-14 20:38             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-15  5:50             ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 15:24               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 15:24               ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15  5:50             ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15  9:59             ` George Dunlap
2016-04-15  9:59             ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2016-04-15 15:30               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 15:30               ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 16:03                 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-15 16:03                 ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2016-04-15 17:17                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-15 17:17                   ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-14 19:44           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-13 15:44     ` George Dunlap
2016-04-07 18:51   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-06 11:07 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-06 11:11 ` Daniel Kiper
2016-04-07 19:12   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-07 19:12   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-09 17:02   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-09 17:02   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-06 11:11 ` Daniel Kiper
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-04-06  2:40 Luis R. Rodriguez

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