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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Parav Pandit <pandit.parav-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Hefty,
	Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	james.l.morris-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Matan Barak <matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv12 0/3] rdmacg: IB/core: rdma controller support
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:20:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161010132014.GD29742@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG53R5V5yE4PsDBjP9BieG_=39M0G1kx-AfBEzWK4LUCxNnYBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hello, Parav.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 06:43:59PM +0530, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > Also, I don't get what you mean by using percentage and when people
> > brought up this idea, it always has been stemming from
> > misunderstanding.  Can you please elaborate how percentage based
> > proportional control would work?  What would 100% mean when cgroups
> > can come and go?
>
> When 100% is given to one cgroup, all resources of all type can be
> charged by processes of that cgroup.
> Resources are stateful resource. So when cgroup goes away, they go
> back to global pool (or hw).
> Giving 100% to two cgroups is configuration error anyway (or without config).

That isn't proportional control.  That's using percentage as the unit
to implement absolute limits.  Proportional control implies work
conservation.

> As you know weight configuration allows automatic increase/decrease of
> resource to other cgroups when one of them go away, as opposed to
> absolute value. How this is going to work in exact terms for stateful

Hmm.... so are you saying that ti'd be work-conserving?  But what does
it mean to say "30%" and then have it all resources when there are no
other users.  Also, is it even possible to take back what have already
been allocated and are in use?

> Nop. Thats not true.
> (a) Every new resource has to be defined in cgroup_rdma.h
> (b) charge()/uncharge() has to happen by the cgroup for each.
> (c) Letting drivers do will make things fall apart. There are no APIs
> exposed either to let drivers know process cgroup either. There is no
> intention either.
> 
> (d) ratio means -if adapter has
> 100 resources of type - A,
> 80 resource of type - B,
> 
> 10% for cgroup-1 means,
> 10 resource of type - A
> 8 resource of type - B

So, this is not work-conserving.  There's too much confusion here.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-10 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-31  8:37 [PATCHv12 0/3] rdmacg: IB/core: rdma controller support Parav Pandit
2016-08-31  8:37 ` [PATCHv12 1/3] rdmacg: Added rdma cgroup controller Parav Pandit
2016-08-31  9:38   ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-07 15:07     ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-08  6:12       ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-08 10:20         ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-08 10:20           ` Parav Pandit
2016-08-31 15:07   ` Matan Barak
2016-08-31 15:07     ` Matan Barak
2016-08-31 21:16     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20160831211618.GA12660-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-01  7:25         ` Matan Barak
2016-09-01  7:25           ` Matan Barak
2016-09-01  8:44           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20160901084406.GA4115-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-07  7:55               ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-07  7:55                 ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-07  8:51                 ` Matan Barak
2016-09-07  8:51                   ` Matan Barak
2016-09-07 14:54                   ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                   ` <ae3adcc4-253e-f87c-6ff6-202c91599f48-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-10 16:14                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10 16:14                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10 17:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                         ` <20160910170151.GA5230-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-11  8:07                           ` Matan Barak
2016-09-11  8:07                             ` Matan Barak
2016-09-11 13:34                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11 14:35                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-11 17:14                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-09-11 17:24                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-11 17:52                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <20160911175235.GB13442-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-12  5:07                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-12  5:07                                       ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                       ` <20160912050717.GE8812-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14  7:06                                         ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-14  7:06                                           ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-14  8:14                                           ` Matan Barak
2016-09-14  8:14                                             ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                                             ` <13a00119-e629-2d34-d08b-c02bb6beceea-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14  9:19                                               ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-14  9:19                                                 ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                           ` <CAG53R5X4stfy5+Jmg+XReUJqt56Z-zABK+UEswHW1dXhH-9cNw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-15 18:56                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-15 18:56                                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-09-21  4:43                                               ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-21 14:26                                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                   ` <20160921142645.GB10734-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-21 16:02                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-21 16:02                                                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                       ` <CAG53R5WMuojhzFGmqk6nHfypd9Hq4dGsWRKjtUyMZ=RezU-LhQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-04 18:19                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-04 18:19                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-04 18:19                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-05  6:37                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-10-05 11:22                                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-10-05 15:36                                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                             ` <20161005063735.GC3086-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06 12:55                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-06 12:55                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-18 20:15                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-19 13:10                                             ` Dalessandro, Dennis
2016-09-19 13:10                                               ` Dalessandro, Dennis
2016-09-19 17:00                                               ` Parav Pandit
2016-09-19 17:00                                                 ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                 ` <CAG53R5Ws4BJKqeEYfEoEx5kuaXUmhDKcXfH4Vx=LTMK6tKMG0A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-10 16:12                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-10 16:12                     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20160910161228.GB29259-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-11  7:40                       ` Matan Barak
2016-09-11  7:40                         ` Matan Barak
2016-08-31  8:37 ` [PATCHv12 2/3] IB/core: added support to use " Parav Pandit
     [not found] ` <1472632647-1525-1-git-send-email-pandit.parav-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-31  8:37   ` [PATCHv12 3/3] rdmacg: Added documentation for rdmacg Parav Pandit
2016-08-31  8:37     ` Parav Pandit
2016-08-31 13:56   ` [PATCHv12 0/3] rdmacg: IB/core: rdma controller support Tejun Heo
2016-08-31 13:56     ` Tejun Heo
2016-10-05 11:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]   ` <20161005112206.GC9282-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-06 12:59     ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-06 12:59       ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-06 13:49     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]       ` <CAG53R5VNVb=8-LJbDRqjtOZG347ucPuc420bcfnDgBKMoKqU-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10  4:46         ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]           ` <20161010044623.GI9282-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10  6:29             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]               ` <CAG53R5UM6nSTZ7=0S9reKGX45CpNBi8soSDVZyXkN-z0_XXWWQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10  7:33                 ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                   ` <20161010073343.GK9282-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10  8:35                     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                       ` <CAG53R5WeWSrJ5-Gtt-cXpUr0r73zh3bqQM_G5zTue27tPtVEXA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10  8:52                         ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                           ` <20161010085241.GL9282-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10  9:22                             ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-10 12:25                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20161010122545.GA27360-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10 13:13                     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                       ` <CAG53R5V5yE4PsDBjP9BieG_=39M0G1kx-AfBEzWK4LUCxNnYBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10 13:20                         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <20161010132014.GD29742-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-10 13:32                             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                               ` <CAG53R5ULKCqtw45E6t4hYdRV+y_OQqVazf=7A7Ax_XAJ2K0_dw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-13 10:34                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                   ` <20161013103430.GB9282-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-13 11:04                                     ` Parav Pandit
2016-10-13 23:14                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                   ` <20161013231413.GA32534-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-18 20:02                                     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                       ` <CAG53R5UciPpa5d8BWyR-tks3LBrBwRCN2NyBbbm1e3EE-OWSYQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-18 21:51                                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                           ` <20161018215134.GB2761-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-19  9:34                                             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                               ` <CAG53R5UEvkPBM0yFrR=fvEzyCrku2q=rLZyDVrSs9q+3hgbSmQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-19 14:33                                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                   ` <20161019143345.GA18532-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-19 19:03                                                     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                       ` <CAG53R5WUyA7JBn=PeivUc5F5k210xf_HccPXFt3r7ZGYHOPaGA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-19 19:20                                                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                           ` <20161019192006.GB3044-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-19 19:54                                                             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                               ` <CAG53R5X5dyo7J-UkeMxi_mSxgv=c54fV=anuCZtmf9kaYwDbPw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-19 20:05                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20161019200536.GC3044-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-19 20:18                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                       ` <CAG53R5XkRKdo-SCaREZvov3AGp5MSd18RpQ+0HEu-htUzqwOOw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-31  6:54                                                                         ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20161031065441.GY3617-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-01 11:03                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                               ` <CAG53R5VKwntDHX101+5aaGoyKMKQuiKQWam575iFAxhmKxhE1g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-01 14:07                                                                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20161101140732.GC3617-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-02  4:34                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2016-11-03 18:00                                                                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20161103180006.GL3617-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04  4:20                                                                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-11-04  4:20                                                                                     ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <AM4PR0501MB2802030EE9E359133E04439CB1A20-dp/nxUn679jTOi/YP668sMDSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04  4:47                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <CAG53R5Vd58wEBKgAajp9VvJmB5sO2Umii0JE4XaLYKbfrJrxyg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04  4:52                                                                                             ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <AM4PR0501MB2802E87F709F41DDEC20B7C9B1A20-dp/nxUn679jTOi/YP668sMDSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04  4:57                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <CAG53R5UyZPh9wduPZGRg2P09n2Og8oODqb+QW=7ryAPqJDa6Vw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04  5:06                                                                                                     ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                                                       ` <AM4PR0501MB28025BE002CBA9D04675A5A5B1A20-dp/nxUn679jTOi/YP668sMDSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04  5:44                                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                           ` <CAG53R5WdauHpML66g-O6zj+j_DUYWJMPjmL1xDaSxwDmPPYm2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-08  8:12                                                                                                             ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                                                               ` <HE1PR0501MB2812298C05431B08B0F408EEB1A60-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-10  7:41                                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                                   ` <CAG53R5XqZwrYsdX=JQ1D4cDB0h65RDQVb=VCiaR5TXuf_uoO0Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-10 16:38                                                                                                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                                                                                                       ` <20161110163837.GE28957-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-10 16:46                                                                                                                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                                                                           ` <20161110164638.GC26105-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-10 17:04                                                                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                                               ` <CAG53R5UGfhGHc3-jgUjH5taFzTHg3BOgXi25QjuQfUFc0U7tgw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-10 17:32                                                                                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                                                                                   ` <20161110173217.GD26105-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-10 17:56                                                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2016-11-10 19:23                                                                                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                                                                                         ` <20161110192344.GA4805-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-11 13:00                                                                                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2016-11-04  4:28                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit

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