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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
Cc: xorg-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: Proposal for RandR version 1.6, Leases and EDID-based output grabs
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 17:59:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170404155923.wllkgop2fyj7wydt@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <867f30gody.fsf@hiro.keithp.com>

On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 08:53:45AM -0700, Keith Packard wrote:
> Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> writes:
> 
> > The multi-seat thing sounds like vapourware, I think we should care about
> > the vr use-case for now, and only that one.
> 
> Ok, I can live with that, even if I like the idea of a slightly more
> general solution.
> 
> > For VR itself I'd go as far as saying that probably our "create lease"
> > ioctl should have only the semantics we need to pass one crtc+primary
> > plane for pageflipping in a VR compositor, expressed in a flag.
> 
> Yeah, we can't express planes through X anyways. I'll leave the kernel
> API with multiple planes as that's actually simpler than having it
> validate that only a single plane is in the lease.
> 
> > All the details about additional corner cases are just so unclear to
> > me (and there's not even a clear use case that will materialize) that
> > I don't think having the uapi is worth it. Too close to the "I'll
> > regret this immediately" bucket :-)
> 
> Removing the 'ChangeLease' ioctl eliminates a bunch of complexity in the
> code, and means I don't even have to think about sending events. I'll
> also go ahead and remove the ability to hide resources from the lessor.
> 
> Thanks, as always, for your thoughtful review.
> 
> ps -- Any thoughts on whether the X request should include the mode to
> use?  Doing that would let us restrict the lessee from setting modes,
> and avoid potential resource issues with the window system. However, it
> would also require providing a scanout buffer in the request.

Yeah I think that's a pretty neat idea to reduce the lease complexity even
more. If the VR compositor is unhappy and wants a different mode, it can
simply nuke the lease and as for a new one. Forgot to say that :-)
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-04 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-01 22:58 Proposal for RandR version 1.6, Leases and EDID-based output grabs "Keith Packard"
2017-04-02 15:43 ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]   ` <20170402154302.zd7nmqf7vtcvgssu-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 19:58     ` Keith Packard
2017-04-03  7:45       ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]         ` <20170403074528.c7vwoi3mg7yeojdr-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 16:41           ` Keith Packard
2017-04-03 22:07             ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]               ` <20170403220749.5ujhdzuy6dnikwry-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 22:50                 ` Keith Packard
2017-04-04  7:02                   ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                     ` <20170404070242.rphtgg4yopek2sf7-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-04 15:53                       ` Keith Packard
2017-04-04 15:59                         ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <20170404155923.wllkgop2fyj7wydt-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-04 16:48                             ` Keith Packard
     [not found]                               ` <864ly4glvd.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-10 17:47                                 ` Mario Kleiner
2017-04-10 18:11                                   ` Keith Packard
2017-04-10 20:05                                     ` Mario Kleiner
     [not found]                                       ` <d6040e25-326c-90dd-bc47-d88e6823e9a3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-10 21:16                                         ` Keith Packard
2017-04-10 18:45                       ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 19:39                         ` Keith Packard
2017-04-07  0:17 ` Michel Dänzer
     [not found]   ` <4caa78af-7dc8-fbcf-d2ca-285d4554f5c9-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07  3:02     ` Keith Packard
     [not found]       ` <86zifsyl6o.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07  7:56         ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-09 17:27           ` Keith Packard
2017-04-10 11:35             ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-28 22:03               ` Keith Packard
     [not found]                 ` <86lgqkw5p6.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02  7:39                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-05-02 14:45                     ` Keith Packard
     [not found]                       ` <868tmfl3lm.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03  7:08                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-05-04  2:04                           ` Keith Packard
     [not found]                             ` <86tw5174y1.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04  8:13                               ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-05-04 18:02                                 ` Keith Packard
     [not found]                                   ` <86inlg7b5n.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05  8:20                                     ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-05-05 14:25                                       ` Keith Packard
2017-05-06 11:34                                         ` Mario Kleiner
     [not found]                                           ` <7f68d9fe-a40f-cfb2-3efd-1149d93bb5cb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-06 15:19                                             ` Keith Packard
2017-05-08  7:33                                             ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-05-10  0:29                                             ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]                                         ` <867f1v1iut.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 10:47                                           ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-05-08 15:29                                             ` Keith Packard
     [not found]                                               ` <86fugfxt7p.fsf-6d7jPg3SX/+z9DMzp4kqnw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-09  7:08                                                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-29  5:52 ` Proposal for RandR version 1.6, Leases [v2] Keith Packard

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