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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCHv3 2/5] printk: introduce printing kernel thread
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 14:26:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704052606.GC3013@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170703153414.65ab12e3@gandalf.local.home>

On (07/03/17 15:34), Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > +#define PRINTK_FLOOD_DEFAULT_DELAY	10
> > +
> >  int printk_delay_msec __read_mostly;
> >  
> > +static inline void __printk_delay(int m)
> > +{
> > +	while (m--) {
> > +		mdelay(1);
> > +		touch_nmi_watchdog();
> > +	}
> > +}
> > +
> >  static inline void printk_delay(void)
> >  {
> > -	if (unlikely(printk_delay_msec)) {
> > -		int m = printk_delay_msec;
> > +	unsigned long flags;
> > +	u64 console_seen = 0, console_to_see;
> >  
> > -		while (m--) {
> > -			mdelay(1);
> > -			touch_nmi_watchdog();
> > -		}
> > +	if (printk_delay_msec) {
> > +		__printk_delay(printk_delay_msec);
> > +		return;
> > +	}
> > +
> 
> This had better be an option, and not default.

yes.

> And what happens if the printk caller happens to preempt the one
> doing the writes to consoles?

in short - we just burn CPU cycles. that case is broken.

that's mostly the reason behind PRINTK_FLOOD_DEFAULT_DELAY being quite
small.

one can simply do

	console_lock();
	printk();
	printk();
	....
	printk();
	console_unlock();

and trigger a useless throttling. a needed one in general case,
but useless in the given circumstances.

not sure if we can properly throttle printk in all of the cases.
we know that console_sem is locked, but we don't know what for.
is CPU that owns the console_sem is now in console_unlock() or
somewhere in fbcon, or anywhere else. we probably need not to
throttle printk() if we know that console_sem is already locked
by this_cpu and we simply call printk either from IRQ that
preempted console_unlock() on this_cpu or recursive printk from
console_unlock()... and so on.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-04  5:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-09  8:28 [RFC][PATCHv3 0/5] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 1/5] printk: move printk_pending out of per-cpu Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-25 12:11   ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-25 12:36     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-25 12:43       ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 2/5] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-10  5:59   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-29  9:29     ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-29 12:12       ` Jan Kara
2017-05-31  7:30         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-31 21:44           ` Andreas Mohr
2017-06-01  7:21           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-01  7:23             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-01  9:20             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-28 13:17             ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-29  7:40               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-28 12:45           ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-31  7:22       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-28 12:19         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-29  6:26           ` Andreas Mohr
2017-06-29  7:00             ` Andreas Mohr
2017-06-29  7:33           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-29 11:24             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30  7:01             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 10:18               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30 11:57                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 12:35                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30 12:50                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 13:16               ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-30 13:38                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-03 11:11                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-02 20:27                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-05 16:36                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-03 19:34                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-04  5:26                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2017-07-04  6:53                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 14:10                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 11:54             ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-30 12:42               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 13:33                 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-30 14:28                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 14:45                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-01  1:50                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-04 14:03                 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-05  5:02                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 3/5] printk: add enforce_emergency parameter Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 4/5] printk: enable printk offloading Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 5/5] printk: register PM notifier Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-30  9:55   ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-31  6:42     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-27 14:45       ` Petr Mladek

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