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From: bfields@fieldses.org (J. Bruce Fields)
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: hard-ban creating files with control characters in the name
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 12:16:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171005161619.GA16482@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171003185852.2o7w4tst6q7xchfe@thunk.org>

On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 02:58:52PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> The argument for making it be configurable is that if it does break
> things in way we can't foresee, it's a lot easier to back it out.  And
> like what we've done with relatime, if the distro's all run with it as
> the default for a couple of years, it then becomes easier to make the
> case for making it be the default.

I find it hard to believe that any general-purpose distro could turn
on something like this without breaking a gazillion things for users.

> > Discussing a configurable policy (perhaps here in vfs, perhaps as a LSM, a
> > seccomp hack or even LD_PRELOAD) would be interesting, but for the above
> > reason I'd want \n hard-banned.
> 
> Perhaps doing this as an LSM makes the most amount of sense.  That
> makes it be configurable/optional, and I think the security folks will
> be much more willing to accept the functionality, if we decide we
> don't want to make it a core VFS restriction.

Making this something you can turn on and off seems likely to create all
sorts of surprises for users when filenames written under one kernel
can't be read under another.

This kind of restriction sounds more like a permanent feature of the
filesystem--something you'd set at mkfs time.

We already have filesystems with these kinds of restrictions, don't we?

It'd seem trivial to add a "disallow weird characters on this
superblock" flag to ext4.

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-05 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-03  0:50 [PATCH] vfs: hard-ban creating files with control characters in the name Adam Borowski
2017-10-03  2:07 ` Al Viro
2017-10-03  3:22   ` Adam Borowski
2017-10-05 10:07     ` Olivier Galibert
2017-10-06 14:54       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-03 16:40   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 17:32     ` Adam Borowski
2017-10-03 18:58       ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-03 19:12         ` Casey Schaufler
2017-10-05 16:16         ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2017-10-06  2:09           ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-06 14:38             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-06 14:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-06 20:00               ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-08 22:03               ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-05 13:47       ` Alan Cox
2017-10-05 12:07 Alexey Dobriyan

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