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From: Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] node: Add heterogenous memory performance
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:44:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181127174457.GB6401@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4jNpgzpfG1awrxspTeQ1JOK-4-Wu6Kb6cd6NGY6Atj3cg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:00:09PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:53 PM Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Heterogeneous memory systems provide memory nodes with latency
> > and bandwidth performance attributes that are different from other
> > nodes. Create an interface for the kernel to register these attributes
> > under the node that provides the memory. If the system provides this
> > information, applications can query the node attributes when deciding
> > which node to request memory.
> >
> > When multiple memory initiators exist, accessing the same memory target
> > from each may not perform the same as the other. The highest performing
> > initiator to a given target is considered to be a local initiator for
> > that target. The kernel provides performance attributes only for the
> > local initiators.
> >
> > The memory's compute node should be symlinked in sysfs as one of the
> > node's initiators.
> >
> > The following example shows the new sysfs hierarchy for a node exporting
> > performance attributes:
> >
> >   # tree /sys/devices/system/node/nodeY/initiator_access
> >   /sys/devices/system/node/nodeY/initiator_access
> >   |-- read_bandwidth
> >   |-- read_latency
> >   |-- write_bandwidth
> >   `-- write_latency
> 
> With the expectation that there will be nodes that are initiator-only,
> target-only, or both I think this interface should indicate that. The
> 1:1 "local" designation of HMAT should not be directly encoded in the
> interface, it's just a shortcut for finding at least one initiator in
> the set that can realize the advertised performance. At least if the
> interface can enumerate the set of initiators then it becomes clear
> whether sysfs can answer a performance enumeration question or if the
> application needs to consult an interface with specific knowledge of a
> given initiator-target pairing.
> 
> It seems a precursor to these patches is arranges for offline node
> devices to be created for the ACPI proximity domains that are
> offline-by default for reserved memory ranges.

The intention is that all initiators symlinked to the memory node share
the initiator_access attributes, as well as itself the node is its own
initiator. There's no limit to how many the new kernel interface in
patch 1/7 allows you to register, so it's not really a 1:1 relationship.

Either instead or in addition to the symlinks, we can export a node_mask
in the initiator_access directory for which these access attributes
apply if that makes the intention more clear.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-14 22:49 [PATCH 1/7] node: Link memory nodes to their compute nodes Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 2/7] node: Add heterogenous memory performance Keith Busch
2018-11-19  3:35   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 15:46     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-22 13:22       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-27  7:00   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:42     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:44     ` Keith Busch [this message]
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] doc/vm: New documentation for " Keith Busch
2018-11-15 12:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-11-15 12:59     ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-12-10 16:12     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-20 13:51   ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-20 15:31     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 4/7] node: Add memory caching attributes Keith Busch
2018-11-15  0:40   ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-19  4:14   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 23:06     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-22 13:29       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-26 15:14         ` Keith Busch
2018-11-26 19:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-26 19:53     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-26 19:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] doc/vm: New documentation for memory cache Keith Busch
2018-11-15  0:41   ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-15 13:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-11-15 13:16     ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-11-20 13:53   ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 6/7] acpi: Create subtable parsing infrastructure Keith Busch
2018-11-19  9:58   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-11-19 18:36     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 7/7] acpi/hmat: Parse and report heterogeneous memory Keith Busch
2018-11-15 13:57 ` [PATCH 1/7] node: Link memory nodes to their compute nodes Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-15 14:59   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-15 17:50     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-19  3:04       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-15 20:36     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-16 18:32       ` Keith Busch
2018-11-19  3:15         ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 15:49           ` Keith Busch
2018-12-04 15:43         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2018-12-04 16:54           ` Keith Busch
2018-11-16 22:55       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-19  2:52     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19  2:46 ` Anshuman Khandual

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