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From: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
Cc: Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@gmail.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"michal.lkml@markovi.net" <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/8] Introducing subdev bus and devlink extension
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 17:45:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190304174551.2300b7bc@cakuba.netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR0501MB227107F2EB29C7462DEE3637D1710@VI1PR0501MB2271.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 04:41:01 +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > $ devlink dev show
> > > pci/0000:05:00.0
> > > subdev/subdev0  
> > 
> > Please don't spawn devlink instances.  Devlink instance is supposed to
> > represent an ASIC.  If we start spawning them willy nilly for whatever
> > software construct we want to model the clarity of the ontology will suffer a
> > lot.  
> Devlink devices not restricted to ASIC even though today it is
> representing ASIC for one vendor. Today for one ASIC, it already
> presents multiple devlink devices (128 or more) for PF and VFs, two
> PFs on same ASIC etc. VF is just a sub-device which is well defined
> by PCISIG, whereas sub-device is not. Sub-device do consume actual
> ASIC resources (just like PFs and VFs), Hence point-(6) of
> cover-letter indicate that the devlink capability to tell how many
> such sub-devices can be created.
> 
> In above example, they are created for a given bus-device following
> existing devlink construct.

No, it's not "representing the ASIC for one vendor".  It's how it works
for switches (including mlxsw) and how it was described in the original
cover letter:

    Introduce devlink interface and first drivers to use it
    
    There a is need for some userspace API that would allow to expose things
    that are not directly related to any device class like net_device of
    ib_device, but rather chip-wide/switch-ASIC-wide stuff.

    [...]

We can deviate from the original intent if need be and dilute the
ontology.  But let's be clear on the status quo, please.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-05  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01  5:37 [RFC net-next 0/8] Introducing subdev bus and devlink extension Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 1/8] subdev: Introducing subdev bus Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  7:17   ` Greg KH
2019-03-01 16:35     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01 17:00       ` Greg KH
2019-03-26 11:48     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 2/8] subdev: Introduce pm callbacks Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 3/8] modpost: Add support for subdev device id table Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 4/8] devlink: Introduce and use devlink_init/cleanup() in alloc/free Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 5/8] devlink: Add variant of devlink_register/unregister Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 6/8] devlink: Add support for devlink subdev lifecycle Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 7/8] net/mlx5: Add devlink subdev life cycle command support Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  7:18   ` Greg KH
2019-03-01 16:04     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 8/8] net/mlx5: Add subdev driver to bind to subdev devices Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  7:21   ` Greg KH
2019-03-01 17:21     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05  7:13       ` Greg KH
2019-03-05 17:57         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05 19:27           ` Greg KH
2019-03-05 21:37             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01 22:12   ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-03-04 16:45     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01 20:03 ` [RFC net-next 0/8] Introducing subdev bus and devlink extension Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  4:41   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05  1:35     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 19:46       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05 22:39         ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-05 23:17           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05 23:44             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-06  0:44               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-06  3:51                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-06  5:42                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 19:04                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 20:27                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 20:53                         ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 21:02                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 21:07                             ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 21:21                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 22:01                                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 22:31                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-08 12:19                                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-08 17:09                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05  1:45     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2019-03-05 16:52       ` Parav Pandit
2021-05-31 10:36         ` moyufeng
2021-06-01  5:37           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-01  7:33             ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-01 21:34               ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-02  2:24                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-02 16:34                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-03  3:46                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-03 17:53                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-04  1:18                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-04 18:41                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-07  1:36                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-07 19:46                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-08 12:10                                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-08 17:29                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-09  9:16                                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09  9:38                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 11:05                                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09 11:59                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 12:30                                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09 13:45                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-10  7:04                                                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-10  7:17                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 16:40                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-10  6:52                                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09  9:52                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 11:16                                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09 12:00                                       ` Parav Pandit

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