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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Intel Graphics Development <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: drm connectors, tegra, and the web they weave (was Re: [PATCH 58/59] drm/todo: Add new debugfs todo)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:50:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190620145014.GB15501@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190618214656.GH12905@phenom.ffwll.local>


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On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 11:46:56PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:01:13PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 07:32:20PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 5:25 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > > <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 05:19:38PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > I could just "open code" a bunch of calls to debugfs_create_file() for
> > > > > these drivers, which would solve this issue, but in a more "non-drm"
> > > > > way.  Is it worth to just do that instead of overthinking the whole
> > > > > thing and trying to squish it into the drm "model" of drm debugfs calls?
> > > >
> > > > An example of "open coding" this is the patch below for the sor.c
> > > > driver.
> > > 
> > > I think open-coding is the way to go here. One of the todos is to
> > > extend debugfs support for crtc/connectors, but looking at the
> > > open-coded version we really don't need a drm-flavoured midlayer here.
> > 
> > There already is debugfs support in the code for crtc/connectors, these
> > files are "hanging" off of those locations already.  I'll keep that, but
> > indent it one more directory so that there's no namespace collisions.
> 
> The todo was to have some drm wrappers here for the boilerplate, but after
> looking at your version that's not a good idea. So not just making sure
> crtcs/connectors have a debugfs directory made for them, but more.
> 
> Wrt adding a new directory: debugfs isnt uapi, but there's usually a
> massive pile of script relying on them, so it's not nice to shuffle paths
> around. Plus the lifetimes match anyway (at least if you don't hotplug
> connectors, which tegra doesn't do).

So, I think you two already covered everything. From a Tegra perspective
there's not really a need to care about the exact structure of debugfs
because there are only a handful of scripts that use this and they are
not exactly widely distributed. At the same time there's really no need
to add another level of directories, since the connector really is the
SOR, so an sor directory in the connector's directory is just redundant.
Cleaning up and lifetime management aren't issues, really, so there are
no good arguments for adding it, in my opinion.

Historically, the sor.c driver is interesting because it used to be just
plain debugfs calls. Only when I added a second debugfs file I decided
to go with the built-in DRM infrastructure for this and then later went
and converted the first file to it as well, for consistency. I do
remember though that I was very unhappy about the fact that I had to do
all this kmemdup()'ing just to make debugfs files per-instance (the DRM
infrastructure doesn't allow that by default). In retrospect that was a
poor decision and I should've just stuck with debugfs and perhaps just
spin a couple of helpers around that instead.

So I'm happy to see this effort.

Thierry

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Thread overview: 215+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-14 20:35 [PATCH 00/59] prime doc polish and ... a few cleanups Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 01/59] drm/todo: Improve drm_gem_object funcs todo Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:44   ` Rob Herring
2019-06-14 22:53   ` Eric Anholt
2019-06-17 14:03     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  6:02   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-17 15:47   ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-17 16:29     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 16:54       ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-17 21:20         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 22:12           ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-18 14:02   ` [PATCH] drm/todo: Update drm_gem_object_funcs todo even more Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18 14:15     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-18 18:25     ` Eric Engestrom
2019-06-20 12:52       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-27 12:15   ` [PATCH 01/59] drm/todo: Improve drm_gem_object funcs todo Thomas Zimmermann
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 02/59] drm/gem: Unexport drm_gem_(un)pin/v(un)map Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 03/59] drm/prime: Update docs Daniel Vetter
2019-06-15 11:41   ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-17 16:38     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 17:01       ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-17 17:47   ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-18  9:20   ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/prime: Shuffle functions Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  9:20     ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/prime: Update docs Daniel Vetter
2019-06-19  9:03       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-19 10:21       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-19 10:50       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-19 12:43       ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-20 12:44         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-20 12:46       ` [PATCH] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-19 10:18     ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/prime: Shuffle functions Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-19 10:47     ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-19 12:09     ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 04/59] drm/prime: Unconditionally set up the prime file private Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 05/59] drm/prime: Make DRIVER_PRIME a no-op Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 17:53   ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 06/59] drm/prime: Actually remove DRIVER_PRIME everywhere Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 07/59] drm/arm/komeda: Remove DRIVER_HAVE_IRQ Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  6:26   ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-06-17 13:43     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  4:41       ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-06-18  5:04         ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-06-17 18:01     ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-19 10:11   ` Liviu Dudau
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 08/59] drm/omapdrm: drop fb_debug_enter/leave Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 10/59] drm/arc: Drop drm_gem_prime_export/import Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 11/59] drm/arm: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  3:22   ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-06-19 10:11   ` Liviu Dudau
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 12/59] drm/atmel: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 21:43   ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-14 21:43     ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 13/59] drm/etnaviv: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-16  7:02   ` Christian Gmeiner
2019-06-25 16:12   ` Lucas Stach
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 14/59] drm/exynos: Drop drm_gem_prime_export Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 15/59] drm/fsl-dcu: Drop drm_gem_prime_export/import Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 13:58   ` Stefan Agner
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 16/59] drm/hisilicon: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 21:29   ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 17/59] drm/imx: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 18/59] drm/mcde: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-15  8:31   ` Linus Walleij
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 19/59] drm/mtk: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  1:51   ` CK Hu
2019-06-17  1:51     ` CK Hu
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 20/59] drm/meson: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  9:48   ` Neil Armstrong
2019-06-18  9:48     ` Neil Armstrong
2019-06-18  9:48     ` Neil Armstrong
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 21/59] drm/msm: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 22/59] drm/mxsfb: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 13:59   ` Stefan Agner
2019-06-17 13:59     ` Stefan Agner
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 24/59] drm/pl111: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 25/59] drm/qxl: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  6:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-17  6:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 26/59] drm/rcar-du: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  7:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-18  7:35     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 27/59] drm/rockchip: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-15 22:36   ` Heiko Stuebner
2019-06-15 22:36     ` Heiko Stuebner
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 28/59] drm/shmob: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  7:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-18  7:35     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 29/59] drm/sti: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-20 15:08   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 30/59] drm/stm: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  9:55   ` Philippe CORNU
2019-06-18  9:55     ` Philippe CORNU
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 31/59] drm/tilcdc: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 32/59] drm/tve2000: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-15  8:34   ` Linus Walleij
2019-06-15  9:14     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 33/59] drm/vboxvideo: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 34/59] drm/vc3: Drop drm_gem_prime_import Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 35/59] drm/radeon: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 36/59] drm/vgem: Drop drm_gem_prime_export Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 37/59] drm/virtio: Drop drm_gem_prime_export/import Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  6:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-17  6:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 38/59] drm/xen: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` [Xen-devel] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  5:05   ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2019-06-18  5:05     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 39/59] drm/zte: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18 13:15   ` Shawn Guo
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 40/59] drm/vram-helper: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  6:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-17  8:24   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-17 13:59     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18  4:49       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-18  7:59         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-19 11:21           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-06-19 11:31             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-27  8:27       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-06-27  9:59         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 41/59] drm/prime: automatically set gem_obj->resv on import Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 42/59] drm/etnaviv: Drop resv argument from etnaviv_gem_new_impl Daniel Vetter
2019-06-25 16:10   ` Lucas Stach
2019-06-14 20:35 ` [PATCH 43/59] drm/lima: Drop resv argument from lima_bo_create_struct Daniel Vetter
2019-06-15 10:03   ` Qiang Yu
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 44/59] drm/mediatek: Use drm_atomic_helper_wait_for_fences Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  5:19   ` CK Hu
2019-06-17  5:19     ` CK Hu
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 45/59] drm/msm: Drop robj from msm_gem_new_impl Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 46/59] drm/panfrost: don't set gem_obj->resv for prime import anymore Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 21:05   ` Rob Herring
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 47/59] drm/vc4: Don set gem_obj->resv in " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 48/59] drm/vgem: Ditch attach trickery in the fence ioctl Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18 12:31   ` Chris Wilson
2019-06-18 13:18     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 49/59] drm/msm: Use drm_gem_fb_prepare_fb Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 50/59] drm/vc4: " Daniel Vetter
     [not found] ` <20190614203615.12639-1-daniel.vetter-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-14 20:35   ` [PATCH 06/59] drm/prime: Actually remove DRIVER_PRIME everywhere Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35     ` [Xen-devel] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 21:36     ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-17 15:39     ` [PATCH] " Daniel Vetter
     [not found]     ` <20190614203615.12639-7-daniel.vetter-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-14 21:36       ` [PATCH 06/59] " Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-14 21:36         ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-14 21:36         ` [Xen-devel] " Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-14 21:36         ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-14 21:36         ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-17 15:39       ` [PATCH] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 15:39         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 15:39         ` [Xen-devel] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 15:39         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 15:39         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17 17:56     ` [PATCH 06/59] " Emil Velikov
2019-06-17 17:56       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-17 17:56       ` [Xen-devel] " Emil Velikov
2019-06-17 17:56       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-17 17:56       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-14 20:35   ` [PATCH 09/59] drm/prime: Align gem_prime_export with obj_funcs.export Daniel Vetter
     [not found]     ` <20190614203615.12639-10-daniel.vetter-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-17  9:32       ` Koenig, Christian
2019-06-17  9:53       ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-21 10:37       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:35   ` [PATCH 23/59] drm/nouveau: Drop drm_gem_prime_export/import Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36   ` [PATCH 51/59] drm/radeon: Fill out gem_object->resv Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 52/59] drm/nouveau: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 53/59] drm/amdgpu: " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 54/59] drm/prime: Ditch gem_prime_res_obj hook Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 55/59] drm/todo: remove gem_prime_import/export todo Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 56/59] drm/todo: Update backlight todo Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 21:46   ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-06-21 13:11   ` Daniel Thompson
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 57/59] drm/todo: Update mmap todo Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 58/59] drm/todo: Add new debugfs todo Daniel Vetter
2019-06-15  6:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-18 15:19   ` drm connectors, tegra, and the web they weave (was Re: [PATCH 58/59] drm/todo: Add new debugfs todo) Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-18 15:25     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-18 17:32       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-18 18:01         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-18 21:46           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-20 14:50             ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2019-06-20 15:11         ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-18 15:37     ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-20 15:16       ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-20 14:57     ` Thierry Reding
2019-06-14 20:36 ` [PATCH 59/59] drm/doc: Document kapi doc expectations Daniel Vetter
2019-06-17  8:52   ` Jani Nikula
2019-06-14 21:02 ` ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for prime doc polish and ... a few cleanups Patchwork
2019-06-14 21:16 ` ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2019-06-15  6:55 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2019-06-17 10:14 ` ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork
2019-06-17 18:21 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/59] " Emil Velikov
2019-06-18 10:41   ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-17 18:28 ` ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for prime doc polish and ... a few cleanups (rev2) Patchwork
2019-06-17 18:42 ` ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2019-06-17 18:49 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2019-06-18  8:20 ` ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork
2019-06-18  9:55 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for prime doc polish and ... a few cleanups (rev4) Patchwork
2019-06-18 14:48 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for prime doc polish and ... a few cleanups (rev5) Patchwork
2019-06-18 15:56 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for prime doc polish and ... a few cleanups (rev6) Patchwork
2019-06-20 17:17 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for prime doc polish and ... a few cleanups (rev7) Patchwork

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