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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Oberparleiter <oberpar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	john.ogness@linutronix.de, david@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/page_isolation: fix a deadlock with printk()
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 09:40:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191010074049.GD18412@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191010051201.GA78180@jagdpanzerIV>

On Thu 10-10-19 14:12:01, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (10/09/19 16:26), Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 09-10-19 15:56:32, Peter Oberparleiter wrote:
> > [...]
> > > A generic solution would be preferable from my point of view though,
> > > because otherwise each console driver owner would need to ensure that any
> > > lock taken in their console.write implementation is never held while
> > > memory is allocated/released.
> >
> > Considering that console.write is called from essentially arbitrary code
> > path IIUC then all the locks used in this path should be pretty much
> > tail locks or console internal ones without external dependencies.
> 
> That's a good expectation, but I guess it's not always the case.
> 
> One example might be NET console - net subsystem locks, net device
> drivers locks, maybe even some MM locks (skb allocations?).

I am not familiar with the netconsole code TBH. If there is absolutely
no way around that then we might have to bite a bullet and consider some
of MM locks a land of no printk. I have already said that in this
thread. I am mostly pushing back on "let's just go the simplest way"
approach.
 
> But even more "commonly used" consoles sometimes break that
> expectation. E.g. 8250
> 
> serial8250_console_write()
>  serial8250_modem_status()
>   wake_up_interruptible()

By that expectation you mean they are using external locks or that they
really _need_ to allocate. Because if you are pointing to
wake_up_interruptible and therefore the rq then this is a well known
thing and I was under impression even documented but I can only see
LOGLEVEL_SCHED that is arguably a very obscure way to document the fact.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-10  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 22:26 [PATCH v2] mm/page_isolation: fix a deadlock with printk() Qian Cai
2019-10-07  8:07 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07  9:05   ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-07 11:33     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 12:34     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 12:34       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 11:04   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 11:37     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 12:11       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 12:11         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 12:43         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 13:07           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 13:07             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 14:10             ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-07 14:30 ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-07 14:49   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08  7:43     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08  8:27       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 12:56         ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-10-08 16:08           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 16:08             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 18:35             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 19:06               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 19:06                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 19:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 19:35                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 19:35                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 11:49                     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 13:06                       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:06                         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:27                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 13:43                           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:43                             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:51                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 14:19                               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 14:19                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 14:34                                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 15:08                                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 15:08                                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 16:23                                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 16:23                                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10  9:01                                       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 10:59                                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 13:11                                           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 13:11                                             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 14:18                                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 14:47                                               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 14:47                                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 17:30                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 17:48                                                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 17:48                                                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 18:06                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 18:59                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-09 14:24                             ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 14:46                               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 14:46                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10  7:57                                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 11:39                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 13:56             ` Peter Oberparleiter
2019-10-09 14:26               ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10  5:12                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-10  7:40                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-10-10  8:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-10  8:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10  8:21                   ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-10  8:39                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-10 11:11                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 15:25               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 15:25                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 15:25                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 14:59   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 14:59     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 15:12     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 15:33       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 15:33         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08  8:15         ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08  9:32           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 13:23             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:23               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 13:42               ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08 13:48                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 14:03                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 14:03                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 14:08                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08  8:40         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 10:04           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 10:39             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 12:00               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 12:39                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 13:06                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:06                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:37                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 13:08     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08 13:33       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:33         ` Qian Cai

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