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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org, bristot@redhat.com,
	jbaron@akamai.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, namit@vmware.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, luto@kernel.org, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	jpoimboe@redhat.com, jeyu@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, davem@davemloft.net, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v5 00/17] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke (and more)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:39:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191111203931.GU4131@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191111194726.udayafzpqxeqjyrj@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:47:28AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:

> One more question.
> What is the reason you stick to int3 style poking when 8 byte write is atomic?
> Can text_poke() patch nop5 by combining the call/jmp5 insn with extra 3 bytes
> after the nop and write 8 ?

I think that question came up a while back (in one of the many
static_call threads IIRC), and it basically boils down to there being
far too many x86 uarchs to be sure of anything.

Instruction fetch width is not always (well) specified and aligning
instructions on i-fetch boundaries (or ensuring they don't cross) was
deemed too fragile (also, it wastes space).

This scheme is blessed by the hardware folks, and while it might be
a little cumbersome, it isn't too horrible. Also, actually using that
exception turns out to be beneficial for tracing text changes, see also
this thread:

  https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191025130000.13032-2-adrian.hunter@intel.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-11 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-11 13:12 [PATCH -v5 00/17] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke (and more) Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 01/17] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 02/17] x86/alternatives: Update int3_emulate_push() comment Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 03/17] x86/alternatives,jump_label: Provide better text_poke() batching interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/alternatives, jump_label: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 04/17] x86/alternatives: Add and use text_gen_insn() helper Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 17:10   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-12 22:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 05/17] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 18:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-12 22:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 22:48       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-13  9:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-13 14:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-14 13:18             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 13:56               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-14 14:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-13  8:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-16 20:46     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-11-18 17:35       ` [PATCH] x86/ftrace: Mark ftrace_modify_code_direct() __ref Borislav Petkov
2019-11-18 17:52         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-19  9:55       ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov
2019-12-04  8:33       ` tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov
2019-12-04  8:33   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 06/17] x86/mm: Remove set_kernel_text_r[ow]() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 07/17] x86/alternative: Add text_opcode_size() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 08/17] x86/ftrace: Use text_gen_insn() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 09/17] x86/alternative: Remove text_poke_loc::len Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 10/17] x86/alternative: Shrink text_poke_loc Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 11/17] x86/kprobes: Convert to text-patching.h Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 12/17] x86/kprobes: Fix ordering Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-13 14:31   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-13 15:42   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 13:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 15:06       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 15:13         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-14 15:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 15:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 15:30               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 15:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 15:58                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/kprobes: Fix ordering while text-patching tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 13/17] arm/ftrace: Use __patch_text_real() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2019-11-11 17:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 17:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 11:29         ` Will Deacon
2019-11-13  9:26           ` [PATCH -v5mkII 13/17] arm/ftrace: Use __patch_text() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56             ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33             ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-22 21:26               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-01-22 21:26                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-01-22 21:26                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-07 10:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 10:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 10:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 10:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 10:26                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 10:26                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 11:27                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 11:27                   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                   ` <20200207112720.GF14914-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-07 16:47                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-07 16:47                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-07 16:47                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-01-08 12:22             ` [PATCH -v5mkII 13/17] " Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-08 14:16               ` Steven Rostedt
2020-01-08 14:22                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 14/17] module: Remove set_all_modules_text_*() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 15/17] ftrace: Rework event_create_dir() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 14:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 16/17] x86/kprobe: Add comments to arch_{,un}optimize_kprobes() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 17/17] x86/alternative: Use INT3_INSN_SIZE Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/alternatives: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 19:47 ` [PATCH -v5 00/17] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke (and more) Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-11 20:39   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-11-11 20:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 20:56     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-12 18:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-25  3:55 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-25  6:47   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-25 17:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-26  0:11     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-26  8:58       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-26  9:58         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-26 23:48           ` Masami Hiramatsu
     [not found]             ` <CAADnVQK4twuXzFhD-qLHmCVK0n1h-GDENQLu+4PVV3Hp++R6kQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-11-27  4:32               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-27  5:01                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-27  6:41                 ` Masami Hiramatsu

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