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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
Cc: ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Nikita Leshenko <nikita.leshchenko@oracle.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] hw/i386/vmport: Report VMX type in CMD_GETVERSION
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 10:08:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200310094350-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f4766b2-9683-8ebf-752e-a0378bb0cbc3@oracle.com>

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 03:35:25PM +0200, Liran Alon wrote:
> 
> On 10/03/2020 14:53, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 02:43:51PM +0200, Liran Alon wrote:
> > > On 10/03/2020 14:35, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 02:25:28PM +0200, Liran Alon wrote:
> > > > > On 10/03/2020 14:14, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 01:54:02AM +0200, Liran Alon wrote:
> > > > > > > As can be seen from VmCheck_GetVersion() in open-vm-tools code,
> > > > > > > CMD_GETVERSION should return VMX type in ECX register.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Default is to fake host as VMware ESX server. But user can control
> > > > > > > this value by "-global vmport.vmx-type=X".
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Reviewed-by: Nikita Leshenko <nikita.leshchenko@oracle.com>
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >     hw/i386/vmport.c | 13 +++++++++++++
> > > > > > >     1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > diff --git a/hw/i386/vmport.c b/hw/i386/vmport.c
> > > > > > > index a2c8ff4b59cf..c03f57f2f636 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/hw/i386/vmport.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/hw/i386/vmport.c
> > > > > > > @@ -36,6 +36,15 @@
> > > > > > >     #define VMPORT_ENTRIES 0x2c
> > > > > > >     #define VMPORT_MAGIC   0x564D5868
> > > > > > > +typedef enum {
> > > > > > > +   VMX_TYPE_UNSET = 0,
> > > > > > > +   VMX_TYPE_EXPRESS,    /* Deprecated type used for VMware Express */
> > > > > > > +   VMX_TYPE_SCALABLE_SERVER,    /* VMware ESX server */
> > > > > > > +   VMX_TYPE_WGS,        /* Deprecated type used for VMware Server */
> > > > > > > +   VMX_TYPE_WORKSTATION,
> > > > > > > +   VMX_TYPE_WORKSTATION_ENTERPRISE /* Deprecated type used for ACE 1.x */
> > > > > > > +} VMX_Type;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > Is this really VMX type? And do users care what it is?
> > > > > This enum is copied from open-vm-tools source code
> > > > > (lib/include/vm_version.h). This is how it's called in VMware Tools
> > > > > terminology... Don't blame me :)
> > > > I don't even want to go look at it to check license compatibility, but
> > > > IMHO that's just another reason to avoid copying it.
> > > > Copying bad code isn't a good idea unless needed for
> > > > compatibility.
> > > Preserving original VMware terminology makes sense and is preferred in my
> > > opinion. I think diverging from it is more confusing.
> > Yea tell it to people who got in hot water because they copied
> > some variable names to avoid confusion. Oh wait.
> > 
> > This is not an official terminology I think.
> Maybe it wasn't clear from my previous messages, but open-vm-tools is an
> official VMware open-source project...
> VMX is the official name of the VMware Userspace-VMM and VMX-Type is an
> official name as-well.
> 
> I'm also not copying code here... I'm copying definitions from relevant
> header files to implement a compatible interface.

You don't need to have enum have same names to be compatible.
And in this case, all we really need is just a single number *2*
and a comment saying that's ESX server.

> This is no different than copying constants from a Linux device driver to
> implement it's device emulation in QEMU.

We really try to avoid stuff like this. If one does this one has to
check license etc etc.  But in this case, the names are confusing,
violate our coding style, I could go on.


> > So please just make it make sense by itself, and make it
> > easy to research.
> I think I have made it the most easiest to research. Having exactly same
> names as VMware official project and pointing to it directly from comments
> and commit messages.

What good does this do when that code will change tomorrow?

You worry about code being easy to write, I worry about it
being easy to read.

Here are things we can do to make things easier for users and readers:
- use full name VM executable instead of VMX
- put in official product names in comments instead of enums
- write code using our coding style
- add a link to where you found a specific number in comments






> > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Also, how about friendlier string values so people don't need to
> > > > > > figure out code numbers?
> > > > > I could have defined a new PropertyInfo struct in hw/core/qdev-properties.c
> > > > > for this enum and then define a proper macro in qdev-properties.h.
> > > > > But it seems like an overkill for a value that is suppose to rarely be
> > > > > changed. So I thought this should suffice for now for user-experience
> > > > > perspective.
> > > > > If you think otherwise, I can do what I just suggested above.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Liran
> > > > I think that's better, and this allows you to use official
> > > > product names that people can relate to.
> > > Ok. Will do...
> > > > Alternatively just drop this enum completely.  As far as you are
> > > > concerned it's just a number VM executable gives together with the
> > > > version, right?  We don't even need the enum, just set it to 2 and add a
> > > > code comment saying it's esx server.
> > > I could do the latter alternative but why? It just hides information
> > > original patch author (myself) know about where this value comes from.
> > > I don't see a reason to hide information from future code maintainers.
> > > Similar to defining all flags of a given flag-field even if we use only a
> > > subset of it.
> > > 
> > > -Liran
> > That belongs in a code comment. Removes need to follow silly names from
> > unrelated and possibly incompatible license.
> 
> What do you mean "unrelated"? It's an official VMware open-source project
> for VMware Tools...
> I'm only copying definition of constants...

No you also copy names and comments. Which might make sense in the
context of the original project but seem to make no sense here.
E.g. for vmware a given product is deprecated but why does QEMU care?
enum values are not even listed. What is poor user supposed to do -
take out a calculator to figure it out?

> > By comparison dead code is
> > dead code.
> Right. That's why I think the enum PropertyInfo mechanism is an overkill at
> this point.
> > But sure, if you want to code up user friendly names, that's
> > ok too. But do follow official names then please, not something lifted
> > from some piece of code.
> 
> These are all official names.

Official as in will stick around, not official as in pushed to
a github repo.


> I'm not sure I understand what you are
> suggesting.
> 
> -Liran

Something like the below.

/*
 * Most guests are fine with the default.
 * Some legacy guests hard-code a given type.
 * See https://github.com/vmware/open-vm-tools/blob/master/open-vm-tools/lib/include/vm_vmx_type.h
 * for an up-to-date list of values.
 *
 * Reasonable options:
 * 0 - unset?
 * 1 - VMware Express (deprecated)
 * 2 - VMware ESX server
 * 3 - VMware Workstation
 * 4 - ACE 1.x (deprecated)
 */

DEFINE_PROP_UINT8("vm-executable-type", VMPortState, vm_executable_type, 2 /* VMware ESX server */),





  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-10 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-09 23:53 [PATCH 00/14]: hw/i386/vmport: Bug fixes and improvements Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:53 ` [PATCH 01/14] hw/i386/vmport: Propagate IOPort read to vCPU EAX register Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:53 ` [PATCH 02/14] hw/i386/vmport: Set EAX to -1 on failed and unsupported commands Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 03/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add device properties Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 04/14] hw/i386/vmport: Introduce vmx-version property Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:05     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:28         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:44           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:53             ` Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 05/14] hw/i386/vmport: Report VMX type in CMD_GETVERSION Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:18     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:40         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:25     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:43         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 13:35             ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 14:08               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-03-10 14:46                 ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 15:10                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 16:39                     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 17:36                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 17:58                         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 21:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 21:34                     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 21:49                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 21:59                         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 22:04                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 06/14] hw/i386/vmport: Define enum for all commands Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:16     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:37         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:54             ` Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 07/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETBIOSUUID Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:44     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:37         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 13:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10  9:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:13     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:22       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:35         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 14:24         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 14:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 14:56             ` Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 08/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETTIME Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 09/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETTIMEFULL Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 10/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GET_VCPU_INFO Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 11/14] hw/i386/vmport: Allow x2apic without IR Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 12/14] i386/cpu: Store LAPIC bus frequency in CPU structure Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 10:53     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:29         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 13/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETHZ Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 14/14] hw/i386/vmport: Assert vmport initialized before registering commands Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 10:57     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10  0:13 ` [PATCH 00/14]: hw/i386/vmport: Bug fixes and improvements no-reply
2020-03-10  0:16   ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10  0:53 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  0:54 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  0:57   ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10  1:10 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  1:49 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  1:50 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  2:04 ` no-reply
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