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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 01/10] RDMA: Add access flags to ib_alloc_mr() and ib_mr_pool_init()
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:54:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210406145457.GA7790@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210406144039.GS7405@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 11:40:39AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Yes, but the complexity is how the drivers are constructed they are
> designed to reject flags they don't know about..
> 
> Hum, it looks like someone has already been in here and we now have a
> IB_ACCESS_OPTIONAL concept. 
> 
> Something like this would be the starting point:
>
> [...]
>
> However I see only EFA actually uses IB_ACCESS_OPTIONAL, so the lead
> up would be to audit all the drivers to process optional access_flags
> properly. Maybe this was done, but I don't see much evidence of it..
>
> Sigh. It is a big mess cleaning adventure in drivers really.

Yes.  When passing flags to drivers we need to have a good pattern
in place for distinguishing between mandatory and optional flags.
That is something everyone gets wrong at first (yourself included)
and which then later needs painful untangling.  So I think we need
to do that anyway.

> > Do we actually ever need the strict ordering semantics in the kernel?
> 
> No, only for uverbs.

Which is a pretty clear indicator that we should avoid all this ULP
churn.  Note that the polarity of the the flag passed to the HCA
driver doesn't really matter either - we should just avoid having to
deal with it in the kernel ULP API.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-06 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-05  5:23 [PATCH rdma-next 00/10] Enable relaxed ordering for ULPs Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:23 ` [PATCH rdma-next 01/10] RDMA: Add access flags to ib_alloc_mr() and ib_mr_pool_init() Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05 13:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-06  5:24     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05 15:27   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-04-06  5:23     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-06  5:27       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-06  5:58         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-06 12:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-06 12:30             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-06 14:04               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-06 14:15                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-06 14:40                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-06 14:54                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2021-04-06 15:03                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-07 18:28                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-05  5:23 ` [PATCH rdma-next 02/10] RDMA/core: Enable Relaxed Ordering in __ib_alloc_pd() Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05 18:01   ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-05 20:40     ` Adit Ranadive
2021-04-05 20:40       ` Adit Ranadive
2021-04-06  6:28     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:23 ` [PATCH rdma-next 03/10] RDMA/iser: Enable Relaxed Ordering Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:23 ` [PATCH rdma-next 04/10] RDMA/rtrs: " Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:23 ` [PATCH rdma-next 05/10] RDMA/srp: " Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:24 ` [PATCH rdma-next 06/10] nvme-rdma: " Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:24 ` [PATCH rdma-next 07/10] cifs: smbd: " Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:24 ` [PATCH rdma-next 08/10] net/rds: " Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:24 ` [PATCH rdma-next 09/10] net/smc: " Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05  5:24 ` [PATCH rdma-next 10/10] xprtrdma: " Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05 13:41 ` [PATCH rdma-next 00/10] Enable relaxed ordering for ULPs Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-05 14:08   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-05 16:11     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2021-04-05 17:54     ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-05 20:07   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-05 23:42     ` Chuck Lever III
2021-04-05 23:50       ` Keith Busch
2021-04-06  5:12       ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-06 11:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-09 14:26         ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-09 14:45           ` Chuck Lever III
2021-04-09 15:32             ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-09 16:27               ` Haakon Bugge
2021-04-09 17:49                 ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-10 13:30                   ` David Laight
2021-04-12 18:32                     ` Haakon Bugge
2021-04-12 20:20                       ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-12 22:48                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-14 14:16                           ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-14 14:41                             ` David Laight
2021-04-14 14:49                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-14 14:44                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-09 16:40           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-09 17:44             ` Tom Talpey
2021-04-06  2:37 ` Honggang LI
2021-04-06  5:09   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-04-06 11:53     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-11 10:09       ` Max Gurtovoy

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