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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Cc: "Roderick Colenbrander" <roderick@gaikai.com>,
	"Benjamin Tissoires" <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	"Barnabás Pőcze" <pobrn@protonmail.com>,
	"Daniel J . Ogorchock" <djogorchock@gmail.com>,
	"Roderick Colenbrander" <roderick.colenbrander@sony.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] leds: add new LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER for player LEDs for game controllers.
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 00:10:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210803221055.GA32527@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.2106241525330.18969@cbobk.fhfr.pm>

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Hi!

> > From: Roderick Colenbrander <roderick.colenbrander@sony.com>
> > 
> > Player LEDs are commonly found on game controllers from Nintendo and Sony
> > to indicate a player ID across a number of LEDs. For example, "Player 2"
> > might be indicated as "-x--" on a device with 4 LEDs where "x" means on.
> > 
> > This patch introduces a new LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER to properly indicate
> > player LEDs from the kernel. Until now there was no good standard, which
> > resulted in inconsistent behavior across xpad, hid-sony, hid-wiimote and
> > other drivers. Moving forward new drivers should use LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER.
> > 
> > Note: management of Player IDs is left to user space, though a kernel
> > driver may pick a default value.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Roderick Colenbrander <roderick.colenbrander@sony.com>
> > ---
> >  include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h | 3 +++
> >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h b/include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h
> > index 52b619d44ba2..94999c250e4d 100644
> > --- a/include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h
> > +++ b/include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h
> > @@ -60,6 +60,9 @@
> >  #define LED_FUNCTION_MICMUTE "micmute"
> >  #define LED_FUNCTION_MUTE "mute"
> >  
> > +/* Used for player LEDs as found on game controllers from e.g. Nintendo, Sony. */
> > +#define LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER "player"
> > +
> >  /* Miscelleaus functions. Use functions above if you can. */
> >  #define LED_FUNCTION_ACTIVITY "activity"
> >  #define LED_FUNCTION_ALARM "alarm"
> 
> Pavel, can I please get your Ack on this one, so that I can take it with 
> the rest of the series?

I'm sorry for delays.

But no, player is not suitable function. Function would be "player1"
AFAICT, right?

I'm not sure "function" is suitable here, and we may want to create
documentation like this... where it would be explained which functions
apply to which devices and what they actually mean.

Best regards,
								Pavel

-*- org -*-

It is somehow important to provide consistent interface to the
userland. LED devices have one problem there, and that is naming of
directories in /sys/class/leds. It would be nice if userland would
just know right "name" for given LED function, but situation got more
complex.

Anyway, if backwards compatibility is not an issue, new code should
use one of the "good" names from this list, and you should extend the
list where applicable.

Bad names are listed, too; in case you are writing application that
wants to use particular feature, you should probe for good name, first,
but then try the bad ones, too.

* Keyboards
  
Good: "input*:*:capslock"
Good: "input*:*:scrolllock"
Good: "input*:*:numlock"
Bad: "shift-key-light" (Motorola Droid 4, capslock)

Set of common keyboard LEDs, going back to PC AT or so.

Good: "platform::kbd_backlight"
Bad: "tpacpi::thinklight" (IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads)
Bad: "lp5523:kb{1,2,3,4,5,6}" (Nokia N900)

Frontlight/backlight of main keyboard.

Bad: "button-backlight" (Motorola Droid 4)

Some phones have touch buttons below screen; it is different from main
keyboard. And this is their backlight.

* Sound subsystem

Good: "platform:*:mute"
Good: "platform:*:micmute"

LEDs on notebook body, indicating that sound input / output is muted.

* System notification

Good: "status-led:{red,green,blue}" (Motorola Droid 4)
Bad: "lp5523:{r,g,b}" (Nokia N900)

Phones usually have multi-color status LED.

* Power management

Good: "platform:*:charging" (allwinner sun50i)

* Screen

Good: ":backlight" (Motorola Droid 4)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-03 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-02  6:12 [PATCH 0/3] HID: playstation: add LED support Roderick Colenbrander
2021-06-02  6:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] HID: playstation: expose DualSense lightbar through a multi-color LED Roderick Colenbrander
2021-06-02  6:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] leds: add new LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER for player LEDs for game controllers Roderick Colenbrander
2021-06-24 13:25   ` Jiri Kosina
2021-07-06  4:51     ` Roderick Colenbrander
2021-07-22 16:22       ` Roderick Colenbrander
2021-08-03 22:10     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2021-08-03 23:29       ` Roderick Colenbrander
2021-08-13  6:00         ` Daniel Ogorchock
2021-08-31 19:09           ` Jiri Kosina
2021-09-01  5:19             ` Pavel Machek
2021-09-01 20:24               ` Roderick Colenbrander
2021-06-02  6:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] HID: playstation: expose DualSense player LEDs through LED class Roderick Colenbrander

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