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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: elic@nvidia.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-next v3 0/6] vdpa: enable user to set mac, mtu
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 04:42:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210806034817-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e3b31032-222a-e1bc-f452-a965b456f48b@redhat.com>

On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 10:50:27AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 在 2021/8/5 下午5:57, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 10:11:49PM +0300, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > Currently user cannot set the mac address and mtu of the vdpa device.
> > > This patchset enables users to set the mac address and mtu of the vdpa
> > > device once the device is created.
> > > If a vendor driver supports such configuration user can set it otherwise
> > > user gets unsupported error.
> > This makes sense to me overall. People are used to
> > use netlink to set these parameters, and virtio does
> > not necessarily have a way to set all device
> > parameters - they can be RO in the config space.
> 
> 
> I don't get here, we need to care RO as well (e.g the max_virtqueue_pairs).

Point I tried to make is, a virtio transport will not allow writing
max_virtqueue_pairs, but when managing virtio VFs from a PF we do need
to set it.  Thus virtio devices need a new set of interfaces for
managing them, it is not just a virtio transport.

> And do we really want netlink uAPI for virtio like:
> 
>  enum vdpa_attr {
> @@ -33,6 +34,16 @@ enum vdpa_attr {
>  	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_MAX_VQS,			/* u32 */
>  	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_MAX_VQ_SIZE,		/* u16 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_MACADDR,		/* binary */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_STATUS,		/* u8 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_MAX_VQP,		/* u16 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_MTU,		/* u16 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_SPEED,		/* u16 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_DUPLEX,		/* u16 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_RSS_MAX_KEY_LEN,	/* u8 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_RSS_MAX_IT_LEN,	/* u16 */
> +	VDPA_ATTR_DEV_NET_CFG_RSS_HASH_TYPES,	/* u32 */
> +
>  	/* new attributes must be added above here */
>  	VDPA_ATTR_MAX,
>  };

The point is to try and not reinvent a dedicated vpda interface
where a generic one exits.
E.g. for phy things such as mac speed etc, I think most people are using
ethtool things right?

> Or virtio uAPI and make netlink a transport?
> 
> I prefer the latter since we will meet the similar issue at the hardware
> level when we want to create and provision virtio device dynamically.
> 
> Thanks

Creating devices dynamically exists with e.g. vxlan.
That is using IFLA_MTU IFLA_ADDRESS etc.


> 
> > 
> > 

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-06  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-16 19:11 [PATCH linux-next v3 0/6] vdpa: enable user to set mac, mtu Parav Pandit
2021-06-16 19:11 ` [PATCH linux-next v3 1/6] vdpa: Introduce and use vdpa device get, set config helpers Parav Pandit
2021-06-22  7:08   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16 19:11 ` [PATCH linux-next v3 2/6] vdpa: Introduce query of device config layout Parav Pandit
2021-06-22  7:20   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22 14:03     ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-23  4:08       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-23  4:22         ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-24  5:43           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-24  6:29             ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-24  7:05               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-24  7:59                 ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-25  3:28                   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-25  6:45                     ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-28  5:03                       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-28 10:56                         ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-29  3:52                           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-29  9:49                             ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-30  4:31                               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-30  6:03                                 ` Parav Pandit
2021-07-01  3:34                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-07-01  7:00                                     ` Parav Pandit
2021-07-01  7:43                                       ` Jason Wang
2021-07-02  6:04                                         ` Parav Pandit
2021-07-05  4:35                                           ` Jason Wang
2021-07-06 17:07                                             ` Parav Pandit
2021-07-07  4:03                                               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-28 22:39                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-06-29  3:41                           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-29 20:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-06-30  3:46                               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16 19:11 ` [PATCH linux-next v3 3/6] vdpa: Enable user to set mac and mtu of vdpa device Parav Pandit
2021-06-22  7:43   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22 14:09     ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-16 19:11 ` [PATCH linux-next v3 4/6] vdpa_sim_net: Enable user to set mac address and mtu Parav Pandit
2021-06-16 19:11 ` [PATCH linux-next v3 5/6] vdpa/mlx5: Support configuration of MAC Parav Pandit
2021-06-16 19:11 ` [PATCH linux-next v3 6/6] vdpa/mlx5: Forward only packets with allowed MAC address Parav Pandit
2021-08-05  9:57 ` [PATCH linux-next v3 0/6] vdpa: enable user to set mac, mtu Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-05 10:13   ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-05 12:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-06  2:50   ` Jason Wang
2021-08-06  8:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-08-06  8:55       ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-09  3:07         ` Jason Wang
2021-08-09  3:13           ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-09  3:29             ` Jason Wang
     [not found]           ` <20210809052121.GA209158@mtl-vdi-166.wap.labs.mlnx>
2021-08-09  5:42             ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
     [not found]               ` <20210809055748.GA210406@mtl-vdi-166.wap.labs.mlnx>
2021-08-09  6:01                 ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
     [not found]                   ` <20210809060746.GA210718@mtl-vdi-166.wap.labs.mlnx>
2021-08-09  6:10                     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-09  7:05                       ` Jason Wang
2021-08-16 20:51                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-09  9:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-09  9:51           ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-16 20:54             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-18  3:14               ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-18  4:31                 ` Jason Wang
2021-08-18  4:36                   ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-19  4:18                     ` Jason Wang
2021-08-18 17:33                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-19  4:22                     ` Jason Wang
2021-08-19  5:23                       ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2021-08-19  7:15                         ` Jason Wang

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