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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Coco Li <lixiaoyan@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 net-next 02/12] ipv6: add IFLA_GSO_IPV6_MAX_SIZE
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 15:26:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220506152640.54b9d0ab@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0UfyUdPmYdShoadHorXX=Xene9WcEPQp2j2SPo-KyHQtWA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 6 May 2022 15:16:21 -0700 Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 2:50 PM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> > gso_max_size can not exceed GSO_MAX_SIZE.
> > This will break many drivers.
> > I do not want to change hundreds of them.  
> 
> Most drivers will not be impacted because they cannot exceed
> tso_max_size. The tso_max_size is the limit, not GSO_MAX_SIZE. Last I
> knew this patch set is overwriting that value to increase it beyond
> the legacy limits.
> 
> Right now the check is:
> if (max_size > GSO_MAX_SIZE || max_size > dev->tso_max_size)
> 
> What I am suggesting is that tso_max_size be used as the only limit,
> which is already defaulted to cap out at TSO_LEGACY_MAX_SIZE. So just
> remove the "max_size > GSO_MAX_SIZE ||" portion of the call. Then when
> you call netif_set_tso_max_size in the driver to enable jumbograms you
> are good to set gso_max_size to something larger than the standard
> 65536.

TBH that was my expectation as well.

Drivers should not pay any attention to dev->gso_* any longer.

> > Look, we chose this implementation so that chances of breaking things
> > are very small.
> > I understand this is frustrating, but I suggest you take the
> > responsibility of breaking things,
> > and not add this on us.  
> 
> What I have been trying to point out is your patch set will break things.
> 
> For all those cases out there where people are using gso_max_size to
> limit things you just poked a hole in that for IPv6 cases. What I am
> suggesting is that we don't do that as it will be likely to trigger a
> number of problems for people.
> 
> The primary reason gso_max_size was added was because there are cases
> out there where doing too big of a TSO was breaking things. For
> devices that are being used for LSOv2 I highly doubt they need to
> worry about cases less than 65536. As such they can just max out at
> 65536 for all non-IPv6 traffic and instead use gso_max_size as the
> limit for the IPv6/TSO case.

Good point. GSO limit is expected to be a cap, so we shouldn't go above
it. At the same time nothing wrong with IPv4 continuing to generate 64k
GSOs after the user raises the limit.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-06 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-06 15:30 [PATCH v4 net-next 00/12] tcp: BIG TCP implementation Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 01/12] net: add IFLA_TSO_{MAX_SIZE|SEGS} attributes Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 02/12] ipv6: add IFLA_GSO_IPV6_MAX_SIZE Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 20:48   ` Alexander H Duyck
2022-05-06 21:20     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 21:37       ` Alexander Duyck
2022-05-06 21:50         ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 22:16           ` Alexander Duyck
2022-05-06 22:25             ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 22:26             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-05-06 22:46               ` Alexander Duyck
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 03/12] tcp_cubic: make hystart_ack_delay() aware of BIG TCP Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 04/12] ipv6: add struct hop_jumbo_hdr definition Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 05/12] ipv6/gso: remove temporary HBH/jumbo header Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 06/12] ipv6/gro: insert " Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 07/12] ipv6: add IFLA_GRO_IPV6_MAX_SIZE Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 21:06   ` Alexander H Duyck
2022-05-06 21:22     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 22:01       ` Alexander Duyck
2022-05-06 22:08         ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-09 18:17       ` [PATCH 0/2] Replacements for patches 2 and 7 in Big TCP series Alexander Duyck
2022-05-09 18:17         ` [PATCH 1/2] net: Allow gso_max_size to exceed 65536 Alexander Duyck
2022-05-09 18:17         ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Allow gro_max_size " Alexander Duyck
2022-05-09 18:54         ` [PATCH 0/2] Replacements for patches 2 and 7 in Big TCP series Eric Dumazet
2022-05-09 20:21           ` Alexander H Duyck
2022-05-09 20:31             ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-09 21:05               ` Alexander Duyck
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 08/12] ipv6: Add hop-by-hop header to jumbograms in ip6_output Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 09/12] net: loopback: enable BIG TCP packets Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 10/12] veth: " Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 22:33   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 11/12] mlx4: support " Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 15:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 12/12] mlx5: " Eric Dumazet
2022-05-06 22:34   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-07  0:32     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-07  1:54       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-07  1:54         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-07  2:10         ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-07  2:37           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-07  2:43             ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-07  7:16               ` Kees Cook
2022-05-07  7:23             ` Kees Cook
2022-05-07  6:57         ` Kees Cook
2022-05-07  7:46         ` Kees Cook
2022-05-07 11:19           ` Eric Dumazet
2022-05-09  8:05             ` David Laight
2022-05-09 23:20             ` Kees Cook

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