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From: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Filippo Sironi <sironi@amazon.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] KVM: Start populating /sys/hypervisor with KVM entries
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 07:08:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22fadfb1-e48d-ccb6-0e42-c105b7335d7a__4863.84636476345$1558015757$gmane$org@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7aae3e49-5b1c-96d1-466e-5b061305dc9d@citrix.com>


On 16.05.19 07:02, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 16/05/2019 14:50, Alexander Graf wrote:
>> On 14.05.19 08:16, Filippo Sironi wrote:
>>> Start populating /sys/hypervisor with KVM entries when we're running on
>>> KVM. This is to replicate functionality that's available when we're
>>> running on Xen.
>>>
>>> Start with /sys/hypervisor/uuid, which users prefer over
>>> /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/product_uuid as a way to recognize a virtual
>>> machine, since it's also available when running on Xen HVM and on Xen PV
>>> and, on top of that doesn't require root privileges by default.
>>> Let's create arch-specific hooks so that different architectures can
>>> provide different implementations.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Filippo Sironi <sironi@amazon.de>
>> I think this needs something akin to
>>
>>   https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/ABI/stable/sysfs-hypervisor-xen
>>
>> to document which files are available.
>>
>>> ---
>>> v2:
>>> * move the retrieval of the VM UUID out of uuid_show and into
>>>   kvm_para_get_uuid, which is a weak function that can be overwritten
>>>
>>>  drivers/Kconfig              |  2 ++
>>>  drivers/Makefile             |  2 ++
>>>  drivers/kvm/Kconfig          | 14 ++++++++++++++
>>>  drivers/kvm/Makefile         |  1 +
>>>  drivers/kvm/sys-hypervisor.c | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  5 files changed, 49 insertions(+)
>>>  create mode 100644 drivers/kvm/Kconfig
>>>  create mode 100644 drivers/kvm/Makefile
>>>  create mode 100644 drivers/kvm/sys-hypervisor.c
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> +
>>> +__weak const char *kvm_para_get_uuid(void)
>>> +{
>>> +	return NULL;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static ssize_t uuid_show(struct kobject *obj,
>>> +			 struct kobj_attribute *attr,
>>> +			 char *buf)
>>> +{
>>> +	const char *uuid = kvm_para_get_uuid();
>>> +	return sprintf(buf, "%s\n", uuid);
>> The usual return value for the Xen /sys/hypervisor interface is
>> "<denied>".
> This string comes straight from Xen.
>
> It was an effort to reduce the quantity of interesting fingerprintable
> data accessable by default to unprivileged guests.
>
> See
> https://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2fc8d514df2b38c310d4f4432fe06520b0769ed


What a great design :). My point is mostly that we should be as common
as possible when it comes to /sys/hypervisor, so that tools don't have
to care about the HV they're working against.

By being first to implement <denied> you just created precedence, so we
can either simulate the same behavor for KVM or be different. And since
commonality is good, I'd rather be the same.

That said, I couldn't find in the patdch above whether Xen even emits
<denied> for the uuid. Does it have that capability? If not, we may as
well go with (null).


Alex



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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-09  9:54 [PATCH] KVM: Start populating /sys/hypervisor with KVM entries Filippo Sironi
2018-10-09 10:41 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-10-09 16:21   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-10-09 16:21   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-10-09 17:50     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-10-09 17:50     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-10-09 15:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-10-10  5:19 ` kbuild test robot
2019-05-14 15:16 ` Filippo Sironi
2019-05-14 15:16   ` [Xen-devel] " Filippo Sironi
2019-05-14 15:16   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Filippo Sironi
2019-05-14 15:16     ` [Xen-devel] " Filippo Sironi
2019-05-14 15:26     ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 15:26       ` [Xen-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 16:09       ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-14 16:09       ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-14 16:09         ` [Xen-devel] " Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-14 16:31         ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 16:31         ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 16:31           ` [Xen-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-14 22:08         ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-14 22:08         ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-14 22:08           ` [Xen-devel] " Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-14 15:26     ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-16 13:50     ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 13:50       ` [Xen-devel] " Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 14:02       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-05-16 14:02         ` Andrew Cooper
2019-05-16 14:02         ` Andrew Cooper
2019-05-16 14:08         ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2019-05-16 14:08         ` [Xen-devel] " Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 14:08           ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 15:02           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-05-16 15:02             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-05-16 15:14             ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 15:14             ` [Xen-devel] " Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 15:14               ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 15:02           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-05-17 15:41       ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-17 15:41         ` [Xen-devel] " Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-31  9:06         ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-31  9:06           ` [Xen-devel] " Alexander Graf
2019-05-31  9:12           ` Raslan, KarimAllah
2019-05-31  9:12             ` [Xen-devel] " Raslan, KarimAllah
2019-05-31  9:26             ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-31  9:26               ` [Xen-devel] " Alexander Graf
2019-05-31  9:26             ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-31  9:38             ` Marc Zyngier
2019-05-31  9:38               ` [Xen-devel] " Marc Zyngier
2019-05-31  9:38             ` Marc Zyngier
2019-05-31  9:12           ` Raslan, KarimAllah
2019-05-31  9:06         ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-17 15:41       ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 13:50     ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-14 15:16   ` Filippo Sironi
2019-05-14 15:16   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] KVM: x86: Implement the arch-specific hook to report the VM UUID Filippo Sironi
2019-05-14 15:16     ` [Xen-devel] " Filippo Sironi
2019-05-16 13:56     ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 13:56       ` [Xen-devel] " Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 15:25       ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 15:25         ` [Xen-devel] " Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 15:33         ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 15:33           ` [Xen-devel] " Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 16:40           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-05-16 16:40             ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2019-05-16 17:41             ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 17:41               ` [Xen-devel] " Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 17:49               ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 17:49                 ` [Xen-devel] " Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 17:49               ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 17:41             ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 16:40           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2019-05-16 15:33         ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-16 15:25       ` Sironi, Filippo
2019-05-16 13:56     ` Alexander Graf
2019-05-14 15:16   ` Filippo Sironi
2019-05-14 15:16 ` KVM: Start populating /sys/hypervisor with KVM entries Filippo Sironi

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