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From: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: Fix ctex support on Debian
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 13:09:19 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <370ffe86-864f-5690-7304-cd4ea24aac9d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220106043707.0d40cd11@coco.lan>

Hi Maruo,
(+Cc: Jon, linux-doc)

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 04:37:07 +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:00:08 +0900
> Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com> escreveu:
[...]
>> Longer term (for CentOS stream9 or RHEL 9), we might need to ask
>> EPEL maintainers to add texlive-ctex.
> 
> Longer term, the script is actually fixing a broken dependency issue
> on distros. So, bugzillas for Fedora/Debian & derivated ones should be 
> opened for "texlive-xecjk" package to also select "texlive-ctex"
> (or whatever other name those packages have on distros).

FWIW, I asked Karl Berry, who is the chief maintainer of upstream
TeX Live, to add a dependency on ctex to xecjk [1].

[1]: https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2022-January/047648.html

Karl has added the dependency to xecjk as of rev 61529 [2].

[2]: https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2022-January/047654.html

On up-to-date vanilla TeX Live 2021 (>= rev61529):

    $ tlmgr info --data depends xecjk
    ctex

With xecjk < rev61529

    $ tlmgr info --data depends xecjk
    (no output)

This dependency is expected to be reflected in the TeX Live
packaging for next Fedora release.  OTOH, as I mentioned earlier,
EPEL 9 (for CentOS stream9) doesn't have texlive-ctex at the
moment, so we need to see what happens there when RHEL 9 is ready.

Note: the xecjk -> ctex dependency is already taken care of
by openSUSE's TeX Live packages.   

As for Ubuntu/Debian, it looks like TeX Live/Debian packaging
maintainer, Norbert Preining, has no intention of adding
dependency of texlive-xetex -> texlive-lang-chinese as can be
seen in his responses to a Debian Bug report [3].
I think this is a reasonable choice as most xetex users don't
use xecjk and texlive-lang-chinese is large in size.

[3]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=961703

        Thanks, Akira

> 
> Worth mentioning that the script dependency-checking is should be smart
> enough to not break once texlive distro maintainers fix such issues.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mauro
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-09  4:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-03 16:30 make pdfdocs fails on Debian stable Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-03 16:58 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-03 17:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-03 20:58     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-03 21:01       ` [PATCH 0/1] Detect the need of texlive-ctex Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-03 21:01         ` [PATCH 1/1] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: add required ctex dependency Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-03 22:46           ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-01-04  0:04             ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04  1:54               ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04  8:05                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-04 10:26                   ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-05  7:48                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-05 12:09                       ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-05 21:42                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-05 22:57                           ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-06  0:41                             ` [PATCH v2] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: Fix ctex support on Debian Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-06  2:00                               ` Akira Yokosawa
     [not found]                                 ` <20220106043707.0d40cd11@coco.lan>
2022-01-09  4:09                                   ` Akira Yokosawa [this message]
2022-01-09  6:28                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-09  7:48                                       ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-06 22:35                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-01-06  0:42                             ` [PATCH 1/1] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: add required ctex dependency Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-01-04  2:00               ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04  6:47       ` make pdfdocs fails on Debian stable Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04  7:32         ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04  7:36           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04  7:53             ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04  7:56               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04  8:07                 ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04  8:16                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04  8:44                     ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04  9:31             ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-04 13:19               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04 13:46                 ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-05  1:47                   ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-01-05  7:35                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05 12:03                       ` Akira Yokosawa

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