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From: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	freude@de.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	kwankhede@nvidia.com, bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 19/19] s390/facilities: enable AP facilities needed by guest
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:47:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ca67c61-99a1-c47f-2f79-4ca29cc0f4a4@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171205153042.4ce4f096.cohuck@redhat.com>

On 05/12/2017 15:30, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:23:50 +0100
> Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 05/12/2017 15:04, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 08:52:57 +0100
>>> Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>    
>>>> On 12/02/2017 02:30 AM, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>>    
>>>>> I agree with your suggestion that defining a new CPU model feature is probably
>>>>> the best way to resolve this issue. The question is, should we define a single
>>>>> feature indicating whether AP instructions are installed and set features bits
>>>>> for the guest based on whether or not they are set in the linux host, or should
>>>>> we define additional CPU model features for turning features bits on and off?
>>>>> I guess it boils down to what behavior is expected for the AP bus running on
>>>>> the linux guest. Here is a rundown of the facilities bits associated with AP
>>>>> and how they affect the behavior of the AP bus:
>>>>>
>>>>> * STFLE.12 indicates whether the AP query function is available. If this bit
>>>>>     is not set, then the AP bus scan will only test domains 0-15. For example,
>>>>>     if adapters 4, 5, and 6 and domains 12 and 71 (0x47) are installed, then AP
>>>>>     queues 04.0047, 05.0047 and 06.0047 will not be made available.
>>>> STFLE 12 is the indication for Query AP Configuration Information (QCI) available.
>>>>> * STFLE.15 indicates whether the AP facilities test function is available. If
>>>>>     this bit is not set, then the CEX4, CEX5 and CEX6 device drivers discovered
>>>>>     by the AP bus scan will not get bound to any AP device drivers. Since the
>>>>>     AP matrix model supports only CEX4 and greater, no devices will be bound
>>>>>     to any driver for a guest.
>>>> This T-Bit extension to the TAPQ subfunction is a must have. When kvm only
>>>> supports CEX4 and upper then this bit could also act as the indicator for
>>>> AP instructions available. Of course if you want to implement pure virtual
>>>> full simulated AP without any real AP hardware on the host this bit can't
>>>> be the indicator.
>>>
>>> It would probably make sense to group these two together. Or is there
>>> any advantage in supporting only a part of it?
>>>    
>>>>> * STFLE.65 indicates whether AP interrupts are available. If this bit is not
>>>>>     set, then the AP bus will use polling instead of using interrupt handlers
>>>>>     to process AP events.
>>>
>>> So, does this indicate "adapter interrupts for AP" only? If so, we
>>> should keep this separate and only enable it when we have the gisa etc.
>>> ready.
>>>    
>>
>> Yes, STFLE 65, it is for AP only.
>>
>> QCI, STFLE 12, is no present on older systems, in this case AP uses TAPQ
>> to retrieve information for each AP
> 
> Dumb question: How old? Machines that are still supported?

No idea which machine are supported or not, will ask.

What I can say is that I have here a Lpar which does not support QCI.
It seems to be a zEC12.2.
z13 support it.

> 
>>
>> So for my point of view, it make sense to separate the three facilities
>> to enable migration on older systems.
> 
> OK, if STFLE 12 might not be present (pending my question above), but
> STFLE 15 is indeed a must-have, we should split this up.
> 



-- 
Pierre Morel
Linux/KVM/QEMU in Böblingen - Germany

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-05 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-13 17:38 [RFC 00/19] KVM: s390/crypto/vfio: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 01/19] KVM: s390: SIE considerations for AP Queue virtualization Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 11:54   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 19:53     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 02/19] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 12:41   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-14 11:50     ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 15:53       ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 03/19] s390/zcrypt: new AP matrix bus Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  8:47   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 15:02     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 11:58   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 13:19     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 15:54     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 16:07     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 04/19] s390/zcrypt: create an AP matrix device on the " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-18 16:20   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-18 17:54     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 05/19] s390/zcrypt: base implementation of AP matrix device driver Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  8:59   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 15:56     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 12:40   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 16:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 17:00       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 18:15         ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-15 10:31           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 12:02       ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 12:35         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 14:25           ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:47             ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-17 21:13               ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-20 17:15                 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 14:25           ` Pierre Morel
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 06/19] s390/zcrypt: register matrix device with VFIO mediated device framework Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:03   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 16:09     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:14   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 07/19] KVM: s390: introduce AP matrix configuration interface Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:10   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 16:26     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:16   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:41     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 08/19] s390/zcrypt: support for assigning adapters to matrix mdev Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:22   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 23:53     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17  9:50       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 09/19] s390/zcrypt: validate adapter assignment Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 10/19] s390/zcrypt: sysfs interfaces supporting AP domain assignment Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 11/19] s390/zcrypt: validate " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 12/19] s390/zcrypt: sysfs support for control " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 13/19] s390/zcrypt: validate " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:13   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 14/19] KVM: s390: Connect the AP mediated matrix device to KVM Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 15/19] s390/zcrypt: introduce ioctl access to VFIO AP Matrix driver Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 16/19] KVM: s390: interface to configure KVM guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 20:22   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:46   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 17/19] KVM: s390: validate input to AP matrix config interface Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 18/19] KVM: s390: New ioctl to configure KVM guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 18:55   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 19/19] s390/facilities: enable AP facilities needed by guest Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:25   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-11-02 12:08     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 12:23       ` Halil Pasic
     [not found]       ` <af1bb867-f9a0-458b-b7b2-c0bb9456eb7f@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-11-02 15:53         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 18:49           ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-03  8:47             ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-12-02  1:30               ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05  7:52                 ` Harald Freudenberger
2017-12-05 14:04                   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:23                     ` Pierre Morel
2017-12-05 14:30                       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:47                         ` Pierre Morel [this message]
2017-12-05 15:14                       ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05 15:01                     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-06  9:15                       ` Pierre Morel
2017-12-06 10:15                         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:14                   ` Tony Krowiak
     [not found]         ` <OF182217F7.6A47A64E-ON002581CD.002BCF58-C12581CD.002D4127@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2017-11-03  8:49           ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-16  9:27 ` [RFC 00/19] KVM: s390/crypto/vfio: guest dedicated crypto adapters Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 10:06   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-16 16:30     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 10:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-16 16:27   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-18 16:43 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-29 11:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-30  8:57   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-30  8:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-30 15:34     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-30 19:04     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-30 19:04       ` [Qemu-devel] " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-31 19:39 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:57   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:23     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:06       ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 17:03         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 20:25           ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 23:35             ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17  7:07               ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-17 10:07                 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-17 10:07                   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-17 20:28                   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-20 17:13                     ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-21 16:08                       ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-22 13:47                         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-28  0:39                           ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05 14:06                             ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 15:09                               ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:49       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 23:41         ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17  9:49           ` Cornelia Huck

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