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From: Li Yu <raise.sail@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4 net-next] net: allow skb->head to be a page fragment
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:46:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <509B6368.9010206@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1352286264.3140.3575.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

于 2012年11月07日 19:04, Eric Dumazet 写道:
> On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 16:35 +0800, Li Yu wrote:
>> 于 2012年11月07日 16:20, Li Yu 写道:
>>> 于 2012年04月27日 18:33, Eric Dumazet 写道:
>>>> From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
>>>>
>>>> skb->head is currently allocated from kmalloc(). This is convenient but
>>>> has the drawback the data cannot be converted to a page fragment if
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Eric,
>>>
>>> I have a question about this patch, why data are allocated from
>>> kmalloc() can not be converted to page fragment ? We have its kernel
>>> mapped address and length, so we can get its page and offset in the
>>> page. If the skb is not cloned (shared with others), such page and its
>>> offset should be can use safely, in my words.
>>>
>>> I suspected that I may lost important something in slab internals, is
>>> right?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Yu
>>>
>>
>> Or since slab allocated object may be across multiple pages?
>> I saw __netdev_alloc_skb() only use build_skb() with non-zero
>> fragsz if it is less than PAGE_SIZE.
>>
>
> SLAB allocators have their own way to handle a page, we cant interfere
> with it.
>
> So no, a kmalloced() object cannot be converted to a page fragment.
>

I think that all kmalloced() objects are continuous on both virtual
and physical address space, so such page fragment converting should be
safe until we use slab allocator to free them.

I ask this question since I am working on a patch to try to directly
forward the data from rx queue of a socket to tx queue of another 
socket. We noticed that the splice itself still has visible costs when 
forwarding small messages, and hope such direct forwarding optimization
can improve this, this idea comes from TCP friends.

Thanks

Yu

>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-08  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-27 10:33 [PATCH 1/4 net-next] net: allow skb->head to be a page fragment Eric Dumazet
2012-04-28  0:27 ` Alexander Duyck
2012-04-28  6:30   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-28  7:16   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-28  8:27     ` Alexander Duyck
2012-04-28  9:22       ` David Miller
2012-05-01  1:48 ` David Miller
2012-11-07  8:20 ` Li Yu
2012-11-07  8:35   ` Li Yu
2012-11-07 11:04     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-08  7:46       ` Li Yu [this message]
2012-11-08 13:30         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-09  2:31           ` Li Yu
2012-11-09  2:37             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-09  2:50               ` Li Yu

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