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From: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
To: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <Oleksandr_Andrushchenko@epam.com>,
	Oleksandr Andrushchenko <andr2000@gmail.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Cc: "sstabellini@kernel.org" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Oleksandr Tyshchenko <Oleksandr_Tyshchenko@epam.com>,
	Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>,
	Artem Mygaiev <Artem_Mygaiev@epam.com>,
	"roger.pau@citrix.com" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	Bertrand Marquis <bertrand.marquis@arm.com>,
	Rahul Singh <rahul.singh@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] xen/arm: Do not map PCI ECAM space to Domain-0's p2m
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 16:04:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <684b3534-40eb-add7-f46e-c6258904757b@xen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15a930ff-77d5-b962-b346-c586a2769009@epam.com>


Hi Oleksandr,

On 10/09/2021 15:01, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
> 
> On 10.09.21 16:18, Julien Grall wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/09/2021 13:37, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
>>> Hi, Julien!
>>
>> Hi Oleksandr,
>>
>>> On 09.09.21 20:58, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>> On 03/09/2021 09:33, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
>>>>> From: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <oleksandr_andrushchenko@epam.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Host bridge controller's ECAM space is mapped into Domain-0's p2m,
>>>>> thus it is not possible to trap the same for vPCI via MMIO handlers.
>>>>> For this to work we need to not map those while constructing the domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note, that during Domain-0 creation there is no pci_dev yet allocated for
>>>>> host bridges, thus we cannot match PCI host and its associated
>>>>> bridge by SBDF. Use dt_device_node field for checks instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <oleksandr_andrushchenko@epam.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>     xen/arch/arm/domain_build.c        |  3 +++
>>>>>     xen/arch/arm/pci/ecam.c            | 17 +++++++++++++++++
>>>>>     xen/arch/arm/pci/pci-host-common.c | 22 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>     xen/include/asm-arm/pci.h          | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>>>     4 files changed, 54 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/domain_build.c b/xen/arch/arm/domain_build.c
>>>>> index da427f399711..76f5b513280c 100644
>>>>> --- a/xen/arch/arm/domain_build.c
>>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/arm/domain_build.c
>>>>> @@ -1257,6 +1257,9 @@ static int __init map_range_to_domain(const struct dt_device_node *dev,
>>>>>             }
>>>>>         }
>>>>>     +    if ( need_mapping && (device_get_class(dev) == DEVICE_PCI) ) > +        need_mapping = pci_host_bridge_need_p2m_mapping(d, dev,
>>>> addr, len);
>>>>
>>>> AFAICT, with device_get_class(dev), you know whether the hostbridge is used by Xen. Therefore, I would expect that we don't want to map all the regions of the hostbridges in dom0 (including the BARs).
>>>>
>>>> Can you clarify it?
>>> We only want to trap ECAM, not MMIOs and any other memory regions as the bridge is
>>>
>>> initialized and used by Domain-0 completely.
>>
>> What do you mean by "used by Domain-0 completely"? The hostbridge is owned by Xen so I don't think we can let dom0 access any MMIO regions by
>> default.
> 
> Now it's my time to ask why do you think Xen owns the bridge?
> 
> All the bridges are passed to Domain-0, are fully visible to Domain-0, initialized in Domain-0.
> 
> Enumeration etc. is done in Domain-0. So how comes that Xen owns the bridge? In what way it does?
> 
> Xen just accesses the ECAM when it needs it, but that's it. Xen traps ECAM access - that is true.
> 
> But it in no way uses MMIOs etc. of the bridge - those under direct control of Domain-0

So I looked on the snipped of the design document you posted. I think 
you are instead referring to a different part:

" PCI-PCIe enumeration is a process of detecting devices connected to 
its host.
It is the responsibility of the hardware domain or boot firmware to do 
the PCI enumeration and configure the BAR, PCI capabilities, and 
MSI/MSI-X configuration."

But I still don't see why it means we have to map the MMIOs right now. 
Dom0 should not need to access the MMIOs (aside the hostbridge 
registers) until the BARs are configured.

You can do the mapping when the BAR is accessed. In fact, AFAICT, there 
are code to do the identity mapping in the vPCI. So to me, the mappings 
for the MMIOs are rather pointless if not confusing.

>>
>> In particular, we may want to hide a device from dom0 for security reasons. This is not going to be possible if you map by default everything to dom0.
> 
> Then the bridge most probably will become unusable as we do not have relevant drivers in Xen.
> 
> At best we may rely on the firmware doing the initialization for us, then yes, we can control an ECAM bridge in Xen.
> 
> But this is not the case now: we rely on Domain-0 to initialize and setup the bridge
> 
>>
>> Instead, the BARs should be mapped on demand when dom0 when we trap access to the configuration space.
>>
>> For other regions, could you provide an example of what you are referring too?
> Registers of the bridge for example, all what is listed in "reg" property

I was more after a real life example.

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-10 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-03  8:33 [PATCH 00/11] PCI devices passthrough on Arm, part 2 Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 01/11] xen/arm: Add new device type for PCI Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-09 17:19   ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10  7:40     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 02/11] xen/arm: Add dev_to_pci helper Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 03/11] xen/arm: Introduce pci_find_host_bridge_node helper Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 04/11] xen/device-tree: Make dt_find_node_by_phandle global Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 05/11] xen/arm: Mark device as PCI while creating one Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03 12:41   ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-03 13:26     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 06/11] xen/domain: Call pci_release_devices() when releasing domain resources Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 18:45   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 07/11] libxl: Allow removing PCI devices for all types of domains Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 08/11] libxl: Only map legacy PCI IRQs if they are supported Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03 10:26   ` Juergen Gross
2021-09-03 10:30     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 19:06   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-13  8:22     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 09/11] xen/arm: Setup MMIO range trap handlers for hardware domain Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-09 17:43   ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 11:43     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 13:04       ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 13:15         ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 13:20           ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 13:27             ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 13:33               ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 13:40                 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-14 13:47                   ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-15  0:25                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-15  4:50                       ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 20:12   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-14 14:24     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-15  5:30       ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-15 10:45         ` Rahul Singh
2021-09-15 11:55           ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-15 20:33           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-17  6:13             ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-17  7:29               ` Rahul Singh
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 10/11] xen/arm: Do not map PCI ECAM space to Domain-0's p2m Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-09 17:58   ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 12:37     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 13:18       ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 14:01         ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 14:18           ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 14:38             ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 14:52               ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 15:01                 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-10 15:05                   ` Julien Grall
2021-09-10 15:04           ` Julien Grall [this message]
2021-09-10 20:30             ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-10 21:41               ` Julien Grall
2021-09-13  6:27                 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-14 10:03                   ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-15  0:36                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-15  5:35                       ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-15 16:42                         ` Rahul Singh
2021-09-15 20:09                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-15 20:19                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-16  7:16                             ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-16 20:22                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-03  8:33 ` [PATCH 11/11] xen/arm: Process pending vPCI map/unmap operations Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-03  9:04   ` Julien Grall
2021-09-06  7:02     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-06  8:48       ` Julien Grall
2021-09-06  9:14         ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-06  9:53           ` Julien Grall
2021-09-06 10:06             ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-09-06 10:38               ` Julien Grall
2021-09-07  6:34                 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko

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