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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/10] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common()
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:02:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86tvryjq7p.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqr2n23b4o.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:22:15 +0900")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com> writes:
>
>> Define compare_commits_by_gen_then_commit_date(), which uses generation
>> numbers as a primary comparison and commit date to break ties (or as a
>> comparison when both commits do not have computed generation numbers).
>>
>> Since the commit-graph file is closed under reachability, we know that
>> all commits in the file have generation at most GENERATION_NUMBER_MAX
>> which is less than GENERATION_NUMBER_INFINITY.
>
> I suspect that my puzzlement may be coming from my not "getting"
> what you meant by "closed under reachability",

It means that if commit A is in the commit graph, then all of its
ancestors (all commits reachable from A) are also in the commit graph.

>                                                but could you also
> explain how _INF and _ZERO interact with commits with normal
> generation numbers?  I've always assumed that genno will be used
> only when comparing two commits with valid genno and otherwise we'd
> fall back to the traditional date based one, but...
>
>> +int compare_commits_by_gen_then_commit_date(const void *a_, const void *b_, void *unused)
>> +{
>> +	const struct commit *a = a_, *b = b_;
>> +
>> +	/* newer commits first */
>> +	if (a->generation < b->generation)
>> +		return 1;
>> +	else if (a->generation > b->generation)
>> +		return -1;
>
> ... this does not check if a->generation is _ZERO or _INF.  
>
> Both being _MAX is OK (the control will fall through and use the
> dates below).  One being _MAX and the other being a normal value is
> also OK (the above comparisons will declare the commit with _MAX is
> farther than less-than-max one from a root).
>
> Or is the assumption that if one has _ZERO, that must have come from
> an ancient commit-graph file and none of the commits have anything
> but _ZERO?

There is stronger and weaker version of the negative-cut criteria based
on generation numbers.

The strong criteria:

  if A != B and gen(A) <= gen(B), then A cannot reach B

The weaker criteria:

  if gen(A) < gen(B), then A cannot reach B


Because commit-graph is closed under reachability, this means that

  if A is in commit graph, and B is outside of it, then A cannot reach B

If A is in commit graph, then either _MAX >= gen(A) >= 1,
or gen(A) == _ZERO.  Because _INFINITY > _MAX > _ZERO, then we have

  if _MAX >= gen(A) >= 1 || gen(A) == 0, and gen(B) == _INFINITY
  then A cannot reach B

which also fullfils the weaker criteria

  if gen(A) < gen(B), then A cannot reach B


If both A and B are outside commit-graph, i.e. gen(A) = gen(B) = _INFINITY,
or if both A and B have gen(A) = gen(B) = _MAX,
or if both A and B come from old commit graph with gen(A) = gen(B) =_ZERO,
then we cannot say anything about reachability... and weak criteria
also does not say anything about reachability.


Maybe the following ASCII table would make it clear.

             |                      gen(B)
             |            ................................ :::::::
gen(A)       | _INFINITY | _MAX     | larger   | smaller  | _ZERO
-------------+-----------+----------+----------+----------+--------
_INFINITY    | =         | >        | >        | >        | >
_MAX         | < Nn      | =        | >        | >        | >
larger       | < Nn      | < Nn     | = n      | >        | >
smaller      | < Nn      | < Nn     | < Nn     | = n      | >
_ZERO        | < Nn      | < Nn     | < Nn     | < Nn     | =

Here "n" denotes stronger condition, and "N" denotes weaker condition.
We have _INFINITY > _MAX > larger > smaller > _ZERO.


NOTE however that it is a *tradeoff*.  Using weaker criteria, with
strict inequality, means that we don't need to handle _INFINITY, _MAX
and _ZERO corner-cases in a special way; but it also means that we would
walk slightly more commits than if we used stronger criteria, with less
or equals.

For Linux kernel public repository commit graph[1] we have maximum of 512
commits sharing the same level, 5.43 sharing the same commit on average,
and 50% of time only 2 commits sharing the same level (median, or 2nd
quartile, or 50% percentile).  This is roughly the amount of commits we
walk more with weaker cut-off condition.

[1]: with 750k commits, but which is not largest commit graph any more :-0

>> +	/* use date as a heuristic when generations are equal */
>> +	if (a->date < b->date)
>> +		return 1;
>> +	else if (a->date > b->date)
>> +		return -1;
>> +	return 0;
>> +}

HTH
-- 
Jakub Narębski

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-26  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-03 16:51 [PATCH 0/6] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] object.c: parse commit in graph first Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:21   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 18:28     ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 18:32       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:05   ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-03 18:28     ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 18:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:32       ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-03 18:44       ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-03 23:17       ` Ramsay Jones
2018-04-03 23:19         ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 18:24   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:30   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 18:49     ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:31   ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-03 18:31   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] commit.c: use generation to halt paint walk Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 19:01   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] commit-graph.txt: update future work Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 19:04   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:56 ` [PATCH 0/6] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:03 ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-03 18:29   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:47     ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 19:05       ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 15:45         ` [PATCH 7/6] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 15:45           ` [PATCH 8/6] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 15:48             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 17:01               ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-04 18:24               ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 18:53                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 18:59                   ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 18:22           ` [PATCH 7/6] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Jeff King
2018-04-04 19:06             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 19:16               ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 19:22                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 19:42                   ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 19:45                     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 19:46                       ` Jeff King
2018-04-07 17:09     ` [PATCH 0/6] Compute and consume generation numbers Jakub Narebski
2018-04-07 16:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-08  1:06   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11 19:32     ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-11 19:58       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-14 16:52         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-21 20:44           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 13:54             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:41   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] object.c: parse commit in graph first Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:41   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11  2:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 12:49       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 17:59     ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-11  2:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 12:57       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11 23:28         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11  2:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 13:02       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11 18:49         ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-11 19:26         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] commit.c: use generation to halt paint walk Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11  3:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 13:24       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] commit-graph.txt: update future work Derrick Stolee
2018-04-12  9:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-12 11:35       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-13  9:53         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 14:31       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-18 14:46         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] commit-graph.txt: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 19:47       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 21:02       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:22         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-24 18:56           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:11             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 22:15       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:31         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 23:19       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:40         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-23 21:38           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-24 12:31             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19  8:32       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] commit-graph: always load commit-graph information Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:50       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19  0:02       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:49         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19  0:04     ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Compute and consume generation numbers Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:54       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:37     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] " Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] ref-filter: fix outdated comment on in_commit_list Derrick Stolee
2018-04-28 17:54         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-28 22:35         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-30 12:05           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-26  2:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-26 12:58           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-26 13:49             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-29  9:08         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:10           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02 16:15             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-26  3:22         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-26  9:02           ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2018-04-28 14:38             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-29 15:40         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 16:34         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] commit-graph: always load commit-graph information Derrick Stolee
2018-04-29 22:14         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:19           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-29 22:18         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 17:05         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:38       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 22:19         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 11:47           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02 13:05             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-02 13:42               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:38       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 22:54         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 11:52           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02 11:41             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:38       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] commit-graph.txt: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 23:32         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:00           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02  7:57             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:40       ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-28 17:28         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:47       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] " Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] ref-filter: fix outdated comment on in_commit_list Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] commit-graph: always load commit-graph information Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] commit: use generation number in remove_redundant() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 15:37           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-03 18:45           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] commit-graph.txt: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-05-03 11:18         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Compute and consume generation numbers Jakub Narebski

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