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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@redhat.com>,
	Alex Belits <abelits@marvell.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [patch V2 8/8] hrtimer: Avoid more SMP function calls in clock_was_set()
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 21:08:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878s4h3zhl.ffs@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YJzZqyaEWstfWtYW@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, May 13 2021 at 09:47, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:12:15AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> +	/*
>> +	 * If the remote CPU is currently handling an hrtimer interrupt, it
>> +	 * will reevaluate the first expiring timer of all clock bases
>> +	 * before reprogramming. Nothing to do here.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (cpu_base->in_hrtirq)
>> +		return false;
>
> This one gives me a head-ache though; if we get here, that means
> hrtimer_interrupt()'s hrtimer_update_base() happened before the change.
> It also means that CPU is in __run_hrtimer() running a fn(), since we
> own cpu_base->lock.
>
> That in turn means it is in __hrtimer_run_queues(), possible on the last
> base.
>
> Now, if I understand it right, the thing that saves us, is that
> hrtimer_update_next_event() -- right after returning from
> __hrtimer_run_queues() -- will re-evaluate all bases (with the
> hrtimer_update_base() we just did visible to it) and we'll eventually
> goto retry if time moved such that we now have timers that should've ran
> but were missed due to this concurrent shift in time.

Correct.

> However, since that retries thing is limited to 3; could we not trigger
> that by generating a stream of these updates, causing the timer to keep
> having to be reset? I suppose updating time is a root only thing, and
> root can shoot its own foot off any time it damn well likes, so who
> cares.

It's root only. Sou you could argue that a borked NTPd can cause this to
happen, but then you surely have other problems aside of hitting the
retries limit.

Thanks,

        tglx

      reply	other threads:[~2021-05-14 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-27  8:25 [patch 0/8] hrtimers: Overhaul the clock_was_set() logic Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 1/8] hrtimer: Ensure timerfd notification for HIGHRES=n Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 2/8] hrtimer: Force clock_was_set() handling for the HIGHRES=n, NOHZ=y case Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-12 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-12 16:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 3/8] timerfd: Provide timerfd_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 4/8] timekeeping: Distangle resume and clock-was-set events Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 5/8] time/timekeeping: Avoid invoking clock_was_set() twice Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 6/8] hrtimer: Add bases argument to clock_was_set() Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 7/8] hrtimer: Avoid unnecessary SMP function calls in clock_was_set() Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-13 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-14 18:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-14 23:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-15  0:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  8:25 ` [patch 8/8] hrtimer: Avoid more " Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27 15:11   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-04-27 19:59     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-30  7:12       ` [patch V2 " Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-30 16:49         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-05-13  7:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-14 19:08           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]

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