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From: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	kan.liang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/22] perf: Add AUX area to ring buffer for raw data streams
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 00:52:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a958q30u.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141006162056.GD6758@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:08:19PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
>> 
>> > On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 03:55:11PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>> >
>> >> Fair enough. Then I'd like to disable the ACTIVE ones before freeing AUX
>> >> stuff and then re-enabling them since perf_event_{en,dis}able() already
>> >> provide the convenient cross-cpu calls, which would also avoid
>> >> concurrency between pmu::{add,del} callbacks and this unmap path. Makes
>> >> sense?
>> >
>> > But why? The buffer stuff is RCU freed, so if the hardware observes
>> > pages and does get_page_unless_zero() on them its good. The memory will
>> > not be freed from underneath the hardware writer because of the
>> > get_page().
>> >
>> > Then when the buffer is full and we 'swap', we'll find there is no next
>> > buffer. At that point we can not provide a new buffer, effectively
>> > stopping the hardware writes and release the old buffer, freeing the
>> > memory.
>> 
>> There are several problems with this. Firstly, aux buffers can be quite
>> large, which means that we have to do get_page() on thousands of pages
>> on every pmu::add, which is a hot path and free_page() again in
>> pmu::del.
>> 
>> Secondly, all the sg bookkeeping that the driver keeps in aux_priv needs
>> to be refcounted. Right now, in the mmap_close path we just free
>> everything. But if we want to free the aux_pages in pmu::del, we need to
>> keep a list of these pages still around after mmap_close() and same goes
>> for the actual sg tables. I can see a way of doing that on the ring
>> buffer side (as opposed to the driver side), but are you quite sure we
>> should go down this road?
>
> No, and I think I realized this after sending that email, but at the
> time I figured there was another way to do it. Of course, now that
> several weeks have passed I cannot for the life of me remember what it
> was.
>
> Lemme go over these patches again to refresh my mind and maybe I'll
> remember.

Yes, ring buffer can keep a refcount for the aux_priv object, which is
grabbed once at mmap and once at perf_aux_output_begin() and released
accordingly and whichever drops the refcount to zero calls
pmu::free_aux. No need to grab page->_count and driver is a bit simpler.

Regards,
--
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-06 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-20 12:35 [PATCH v4 00/22] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:35 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] perf: Add data_{offset,size} to user_page Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:35 ` [PATCH v4 02/22] perf: Add AUX area to ring buffer for raw data streams Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08  7:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:16     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 11:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 12:55         ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 13:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-06  9:08             ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-10-06 16:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-06 21:52                 ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2014-10-07 15:15                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/22] perf: Support high-order allocations for AUX space Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/22] perf: Add a capability for AUX_NO_SG pmus to do software double buffering Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08  7:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:07     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 11:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] perf: Add a pmu capability for "exclusive" events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/22] perf: Redirect output from inherited events to parents Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 15:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09  9:54     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/22] perf: Add api for pmus to write to AUX space Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 16:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 16:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/22] perf: Add AUX record Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09  8:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/22] perf: Support overwrite mode for AUX area Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09  8:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09  8:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09  9:40     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 10:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 11:53         ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 12:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 13:00             ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/22] perf: Add wakeup watermark control to " Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/22] perf: add ITRACE_START record to indicate that tracing has started Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09  9:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09  9:33     ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/22] x86: Add Intel Processor Trace (INTEL_PT) cpu feature detection Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/22] x86: perf: Intel PT and LBR/BTS are mutually exclusive Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/22] x86: perf: intel_pt: Intel PT PMU driver Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 15/22] x86: perf: intel_bts: Add BTS " Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 16/22] perf: Add rb_{alloc,free}_kernel api Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09  9:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 17/22] perf: Add a helper to copy AUX data in the kernel Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 18/22] perf: Add a helper for looking up pmus by type Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 19/22] perf: Add infrastructure for using AUX data in perf samples Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09  9:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 20/22] perf: Allocate ring buffers for inherited per-task kernel events Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09  9:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 21/22] perf: Allow AUX sampling for multiple events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 22/22] perf: Allow sampling of inherited events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-25  6:21 ` [PATCH v4 00/22] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Adrian Hunter
2014-09-01 16:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 17:17   ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]     ` <CANLsYky0vuwo7MwKbiGXypkLkrX7k6BOEf2uej3-Z3-HZHKd7w@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-04  8:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-05 13:34         ` Mathieu Poirier
2014-09-08 11:55           ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 13:08             ` Michael Williams
2014-09-08 13:29             ` Al Grant

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