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From: Finn Thain <fthain@fastmail.com.au>
To: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>
Cc: aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	hpoussin@reactos.org, aurelien@aurel32.net,
	"Laurent Vivier" <laurent@vivier.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] dp8393x: fixes for MacOS toolbox ROM
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 14:36:37 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cdbdeb-1228-f08f-ed15-107f5cf6484@nippy.intranet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <246849c9-c674-7b33-6fe0-ddfff1d128fe@ilande.co.uk>

On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:

> Thanks for the link and the detailed testing information. I've been 
> trying to understand why you had to set the MAC address in the ARC 
> firmware so I had a bit of an experiment here.
> 
> The reason that you need to do this is because of the NVRAM 
> configuration in your command line, in particular -global 
> ds1225y.size=8200. What this does is extend the NVRAM over the top of 
> the dp8393x-prom area where QEMU places the NIC MAC address and checksum 
> on startup, so the NVRAM captures the MAC address reads/writes instead. 
> The net effect of this is that the empty NVRAM initially reads all zeros 
> and why an initial setup is required to set the MAC address.
> 
> This can be seen quite clearly in the "info mtree" output:
> 
>     0000000080009000-000000008000b007 (prio 0, i/o): nvram
>     000000008000b000-000000008000bfff (prio 0, rom): dp8393x-prom
> 
> However if you completely drop -global ds1225y.size=8200 from your 
> command line then the NVRAM doesn't overrun into the dp8393x-prom area, 
> and the ARC firmware picks up the MAC address from QEMU correctly:
> 
>     0000000080009000-000000008000afff (prio 0, i/o): nvram
>     000000008000b000-000000008000bfff (prio 0, rom): dp8393x-prom
> 
> I've also looked over the entire SONIC datasheet to see if the PROM 
> format is documented, and according to that there is no non-volatile 
> storage available on the chip itself. 

Yes, that's my understanding also. The relevant National Semicondutor 
Application Notes seem to include a separate PROM. And if you closely 
examine the Linux macsonic.c driver, you'll see that the PowerBook 5x0 
models get a random MAC address because no-one (outside of Apple) knows 
where the real MAC address is stored.

> Testing shows that the checksum algorithm currently used for the dp8393x 
> device generates the same result as that generated by the ARC firmware, 
> which is known to be different than that used by the Q800 machine.
> 
> From this I conclude that the PROM is provided by the board and not the 
> chipset, and therefore each machine should construct its own PROM 
> accordingly. I'll send a v2 patchset shortly with these changes which 
> shall also include the proposed endian patch.
> 

If you potentially have both a ds1225y NVRAM and a dp8393x PROM (for the 
magnum machine) how do you avoid ending up with conflicting state? Would 
the two storage devices have to be mutually exclusive?


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-25  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-13 16:37 [PATCH 0/5] dp8393x: fixes for MacOS toolbox ROM Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-13 16:37 ` [PATCH 1/5] dp8393x: checkpatch fixes Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-13 16:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] dp8393x: convert to trace-events Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-13 16:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] dp8393x: fix PROM checksum and MAC address storage Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-13 16:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] dp8393x: don't force 32-bit register access Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-13 16:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] dp8393x: fix CAM descriptor entry index Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-14  5:36 ` [PATCH 0/5] dp8393x: fixes for MacOS toolbox ROM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-06-14  7:51   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-16  3:09     ` Finn Thain
2021-06-16  6:10       ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-18  6:22         ` Finn Thain
2021-06-24 14:42           ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-25  4:36             ` Finn Thain [this message]
2021-06-25  6:17               ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-25  9:32                 ` Finn Thain
2021-06-25 11:49                   ` Mark Cave-Ayland

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