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From: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: Nathan Lynch <nathanl@linux.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Henrique Barboza <danielhb413@gmail.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 8/8] powerpc/papr_scm: Use FORM2 associativity details
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 19:34:11 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf78mvtw.fsf@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8c4mw89.fsf@linux.ibm.com>

Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com> writes:

> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:35:17PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>>> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
>>> 
>>> > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 11:27:50AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>>> >> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
>>> >> 
>>> >> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:10:03PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> .....
>
>> I'm still not understanding why the latency we care about is different
>> in the two cases.  Can you give an example of when this would result
>> in different actual node assignments for the two different cases?
>
> How about the below update?
>
> With Form2 "ibm,associativity" for resources is listed as below:
>
> "ibm,associativity" property for resources in node 0, 8 and 40
> { 3, 6, 7, 0 }
> { 3, 6, 9, 8 }
> { 4, 6, 7, 0, 40}
>
> With "ibm,associativity-reference-points"  { 0x3, 0x2 }
>
> Form2 adds additional property which can be used with devices like persistence
> memory devices which would also like to be presented as memory-only NUMA nodes.
>
> "ibm,associativity-memory-node-reference-point" property contains a number
> representing the domainID index to be used to find the domainID that should be used
> when using the resource as memory only NUMA node. The NUMA distance information
> w.r.t this domainID will take into consideration the latency of the media. A
> high latency memory device will have a large NUMA distance value assigned w.r.t
> the domainID found at at "ibm,associativity-memory-node-reference-point" domainID index.
>
> prop-encoded-array: An integer encoded as with encode-int specifying the domainID index
>
> In the above example:
> "ibm,associativity-memory-node-reference-point"  { 0x4 }
>
> ex:
>
>    --------------------------------------
>   |                            NUMA node0 |
>   |    ProcA -----> MEMA                  |
>   |     |                                 |
>   |	|                                 |
>   |	-------------------> PMEMB        |
>   |                                       |
>    ---------------------------------------
>
>    ---------------------------------------
>   |                            NUMA node1 |
>   |                                       |
>   |    ProcB -------> MEMC                |
>   |	|                                 |
>   |	-------------------> PMEMD        |
>   |                                       |
>   |                                       |
>    ---------------------------------------
>
>  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |                                                      domainID 20               |
> |   ---------------------------------------                                      |
> |  |                            NUMA node0 |                                     |
> |  |                                       |            --------------------     |
> |  |    ProcA -------> MEMA                |           |        NUMA node40 |    |
> |  |	|                                  |           |                    |    |
> |  |	---------------------------------- |-------->  |  PMEMB             |    |
> |  |                                       |            --------------------     |
> |  |                                       |                                     |
> |   ---------------------------------------                                      |
> |                                                                                |
> |   ---------------------------------------                                      |
> |  |                            NUMA node1 |                                     |
> |  |                                       |                                     |
> |  |    ProcB -------> MEMC                |           -------------------       |
> |  |	|                                  |          |       NUMA node41 |      |
> |  |	--------------------------------------------> | PMEMD             |      |
> |  |                                       |           -------------------       |
> |  |                                       |                                     |
> |   ---------------------------------------                                      |
> |                                                                                |
>  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> For a topology like the above application running of ProcA wants to find out
> persistent memory mount local to its NUMA node. Hence when using it as
> pmem fsdax mount or devdax device we want PMEMB to have associativity
> of NUMA node0 and PMEMD to have associativity of NUMA node1. But when
> we want to use it as memory using dax kmem driver, we want both PMEMB
> and PMEMD to appear as memory only NUMA node at a distance that is
> derived based on the latency of the media.
>
> "ibm,associativity":
> PROCA/MEMA -> { 2, 20, 0 } 
> PROCB/MEMC -> { 2, 20, 1 } 
> PMEMB      -> { 3, 20, 0, 40}
> PMEMB      -> { 3, 20, 1, 41}
>
> "ibm,associativity-reference-points" -> { 2, 1 }
> "ibm,associativity-memory-node-reference-points" -> { 3 }

Another option is to make sure that numa-distance-value is populated
such that PMEMB distance indicates it is closer to node0 when compared
to node1. ie, node_distance[40][0] < node_distance[40][1]. One could
possibly infer the grouping based on the distance value and not deepend
on ibm,associativity for that purpose.

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-17 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-14 16:39 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Add support for FORM2 associativity Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-14 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] powerpc/pseries: rename min_common_depth to primary_domain_index Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  3:00   ` David Gibson
2021-06-15  8:21     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-14 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] powerpc/pseries: rename distance_ref_points_depth to max_domain_index Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  3:01   ` David Gibson
2021-06-15  8:22     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-14 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] powerpc/pseries: Rename TYPE1_AFFINITY to FORM1_AFFINITY Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  3:04   ` David Gibson
2021-06-14 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] powerpc/pseries: Consolidate DLPAR NUMA distance update Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  3:13   ` David Gibson
2021-06-15  8:26     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-14 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] powerpc/pseries: Consolidate NUMA distance update during boot Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-14 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] powerpc/pseries: Add a helper for form1 cpu distance Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  3:21   ` David Gibson
2021-06-14 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] powerpc/pseries: Add support for FORM2 associativity Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  3:53   ` David Gibson
2021-06-15  5:28     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  6:25       ` David Gibson
2021-06-15  7:40         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-17  7:50           ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 10:46             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-14 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] powerpc/papr_scm: Use FORM2 associativity details Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  3:55   ` David Gibson
2021-06-15  5:57     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-15  6:34       ` David Gibson
2021-06-15  7:05         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-17  7:46           ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 10:53             ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2021-06-17 11:11               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-17 11:46                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-17 20:00                 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2021-06-18  3:18                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-17 10:59             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-24  3:16               ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 13:55             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-06-17 14:04               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2021-06-15  1:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Add support for FORM2 associativity Daniel Henrique Barboza

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