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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: use builtins to read eflags
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 20:39:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o85faum5.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGG=3QV2sw1w+j2NDqPVAbobGj04QXfOF0VcSCebRbs6y-L5WA@mail.gmail.com>

Bill,

On Thu, Dec 16 2021 at 11:55, Bill Wendling wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 4:57 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> Emphasis on *can*. Just claiming that this might improve things does not
>> cut it. Where is the prove?
>>
> There are a few proofs. First, clang generates better code with the
> builtin.

which is best demonstrated by showing the before and after.

> Yes, that's because clang doesn't handle the "=rm" constraint
> in the same way that GCC does, but that's not really relevant (sure,
> clang should correct this, but that shouldn't prevent this patch from
> going, because builtins are generally better than inline assembly).
> Builtins exist for a reason. The compiler's able to understand what's
> going on and generate the appropriate code for it. It also gives the
> compiler more freedom for optimizations.
>
> Secondly, this one small function has had multiple changes since its
> creation, basically pinging back and forth trying to determine the
> best constraints to use:
>
>   6abcd98f x86: irqflags consolidation
>   f1f029c7 x86: fix assembly constraints in native_save_fl()
>   ab94fcf5 x86: allow "=rm" in native_save_fl()
>
> The information on which form to use already exists in the compiler.
> Using the builtin will save future churning and thus developers' time.

Why is the above and this

> The minimal version of GCC is now 5.1, which supports these builtins.
> That wasn't the case before.

not part of the change log to avoid maintainers having to ask exactly
these questions?

Thanks,

        tglx





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-17 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-15 21:18 [PATCH] x86: use builtins to read eflags Bill Wendling
2021-12-15 22:46 ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-15 23:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-16 20:00   ` Bill Wendling
2021-12-16 20:07     ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-12-16  0:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-16 19:55   ` Bill Wendling
2021-12-17 12:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-17 19:39     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2022-03-14 23:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-15  0:08       ` Bill Wendling
2021-12-16 19:58   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-12-29  2:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Bill Wendling
2022-01-27 20:56   ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-04  0:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-02-04  0:58     ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-04  0:57   ` [PATCH v3] " Bill Wendling
2022-02-07 22:11     ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-08  9:14       ` David Laight
2022-02-08 23:18         ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-14 23:53         ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-10 22:31     ` [PATCH v4] " Bill Wendling
2022-02-11 16:40       ` David Laight
2022-02-11 19:25         ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-11 22:09           ` David Laight
2022-02-11 23:33             ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-12  0:24           ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-12  9:23             ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-15  0:33               ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-03-01 20:19       ` [PATCH v5] " Bill Wendling
2022-03-14 23:07         ` Bill Wendling
     [not found]           ` <AC3D873E-A28B-41F1-8BF4-2F6F37BCEEB4@zytor.com>
2022-03-15  7:19             ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 15:43               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-17 18:00                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-03-17 18:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 19:45                     ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 20:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:10                         ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 21:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:45                             ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 22:51                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 23:14                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 23:19                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 23:31                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18  0:05                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 22:37                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 20:13                     ` Florian Weimer
2022-03-17 20:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18  0:25                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18  1:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18  1:50                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:05                     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-17 21:39                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 17:59                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-18 18:19                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 21:48                             ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-18 23:10                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 23:42                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-19  1:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-19 23:15                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-18 22:09                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18 22:33                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 22:36                               ` David Laight
2022-03-18 22:47                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 22:43                             ` David Laight
2022-03-18 23:03                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 23:04                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18 23:52                           ` David Laight

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