All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>,
	Luca Coelho <luciano.coelho@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-wireless\@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: iwlwifi warnings in 5.5-rc1
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 11:45:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2vhesa1.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa22bfce34e5a938e439b0507296a8b6a23f5c61.camel@sipsolutions.net>

Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:

> On Wed, 2019-12-11 at 15:47 +0100, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> > Say you have some queues - some (Q1-Qn) got a LOT of traffic, and
>> > another (Q0) just has some interactive traffic.
>> > 
>> > You could then end up in a situation where you have 24ms queued up on
>> > Q1-Qn (with n high enough to not have hit the per-queue AQL limit),
>> > right?
>> > 
>> > Say also the last frame on Q0 was dequeued by the hardware, but the
>> > tx_dequeue() got NULL because of the AQL limit having been eaten up by
>> > all the packets on Q1-Qn.
>> > 
>> > Now you'll no longer get a new dequeue attempt on Q0 (it was already
>> > empty last time, so no hardware reclaim to trigger new dequeues), and a
>> > new dequeue on the *other* queues will not do anything for this queue.
>> 
>> Oh, right, I see; yeah, that could probably happen. I guess we could
>> either kick all available queues whenever the global limit goes from
>> "above" to "below"; or we could remove the "return NULL" logic from
>> tx_dequeue() and rely on next_txq() to throttle. I think the latter is
>> probably simpler, but I'm a little worried that the throttling will
>> become too lax (because the driver can keep dequeueing in the same
>> scheduling round)...
>
> I honestly have no idea what's better ... :)

Right, I guess we'll have to go and measure. Let's leave it as-is for
now, then, and we can adjust in a separate patch.

> You're the expert, I'm just poking holes into it ;-)

And you're doing that very well, as it turns out; thanks! ;)

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-12 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-10 20:46 iwlwifi warnings in 5.5-rc1 Jens Axboe
2019-12-11  8:36 ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-11  8:53   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-11 10:11     ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-11 10:23       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-11 11:51         ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-11 13:42           ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-11 14:04             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-11 14:12               ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-11 14:47                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-11 21:18                   ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-12 10:45                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2019-12-11 14:02           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-11 21:17             ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-12 10:55               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-12 11:00                 ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-21  0:55   ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-21  9:17     ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-21 13:45       ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 13:45 ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-11 14:09   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-11 14:13     ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-11 14:55       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-11 21:19         ` Johannes Berg
2019-12-12 10:55           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87y2vhesa1.fsf@toke.dk \
    --to=toke@redhat.com \
    --cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
    --cc=emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com \
    --cc=johannes@sipsolutions.net \
    --cc=linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=luciano.coelho@intel.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.