Re: [PATCH v6 4/4] Jobs based on custom runners: add job definitions for QEMU's machines

From: Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: "Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Beraldo Leal" <bleal@redhat.com>,
	"Erik Skultety" <eskultet@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Willian Rampazzo" <willianr@redhat.com>,
	"Willian Rampazzo" <wrampazz@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/4] Jobs based on custom runners: add job definitions for QEMU's machines
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 21:08:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+bd_6LJvf5hUYd=XSBaSO+Tx12_qyyDhw7TKDeit=05WDqBLA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czssirw4.fsf@linaro.org>

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:04 AM Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:
>
>
> Cleber Rosa Junior <crosa@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 2:30 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi Alex, Stefan,
> >
> >  On 6/8/21 5:14 AM, Cleber Rosa wrote:
> >  > The QEMU project has two machines (aarch64 and s390x) that can be used
> >  > for jobs that do build and run tests.
> >
> <snip>
> >
> >  Who has access to what and should do what (setup)? How is this list of
> >  hw managed btw? Should there be some public visibility (i.e. Wiki)?
> >
> > These are good questions, and I believe Alex can answer them about those two machines.  Even though I hooked them up to GitLab,
> > AFAICT he is the ultimate admin (maybe Peter too?).
> >
> > About hardware management, it has been suggested to use either the Wiki or a MAINTAINERS entry.  This is still unresolved and feedback
> > would be appreciated.  For me to propose a MAINTAINERS entry, say, on
> > a v7, I'd need the information on who is managing them.
>
> I can only talk about aarch64.ci.qemu.org which is a donated Equinix
> machine that comes from the WorksOnArm initiative. I applied for it on
> behalf of the QEMU project and we can have it for as long as it's
> useful.
>
> I don't know if we need anything more that documenting the nominal
> contacts in:
>
>   https://wiki.qemu.org/AdminContacts
>

That's enough indeed, thanks.  I'll follow up with a proposal about
the expected duties of admins, which should be nothing but common
sense.

Is there anyone that can speak for the s390x machine?

> >  Is there a document explaining what are the steps to follow for an
> >  entity to donate / sponsor hardware? Where would it be stored, should
> >  this hw be shipped somewhere? What documentation should be provided for
> >  its system administration?
>
> I think the project can only really work with donations out of someones
> data centre where they keep responsibility for the physical aspects of
> any machines including the ongoing hosting and running costs.
>

Agreed.  Anything else is beyond what can be managed atm.

> --
> Alex Bennée
>

Thanks,
- Cleber.