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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	aherrmann@suse.com
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	mgorman@suse.com, Chunyan Zhang <zhang.chunyan@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bfq-iosched@googlegroups.com, oleksandr@natalenko.name,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: BFQ default for single queue devices
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 08:53:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdaeYU+Crr75T49WftyOHqCrsyBLBPDBBsJF-RCjmAQEdw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B5321A64-8A1A-42FF-A337-F4524BDA179B@linaro.org>

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:29 AM Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org> wrote:

> So, I do understand your need for conservativeness, but, after so much
> evidence on single-queue devices, and so many years! :), what's the
> point in keeping Linux worse for virtually everybody, by default?

I understand if we need to ease things in as well, I don't intend this
change for the current merge window or anything, since v4.19
will notably have this patch:

commit d5038a13eca72fb216c07eb717169092e92284f1
Author: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
Date:   Wed Jul 4 10:53:56 2018 +0200

    scsi: core: switch to scsi-mq by default

    It has been more than one year since we tried to change the default from
    legacy to multi queue in SCSI with commit c279bd9e406 ("scsi: default to
    scsi-mq"). But due to issues with suspend/resume and performance problems
    it had been reverted again with commit cbe7dfa26eee ("Revert "scsi: default
    to scsi-mq"").

    In the meantime there have been a substantial amount of performance
    improvements and suspend/resume got fixed as well, thus we can re-enable
    scsi-mq without a significant performance penalty.

    Signed-off-by: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
    Reviewed-by: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
    Reviewed-by: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
    Acked-by: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
    Signed-off-by: Martin K. Petersen <martin.petersen@oracle.com>

I guess that patch can be a bit scary by itself. But IIUC it all went
fine this time!

But hey, if that works, that means $SUBJECT patch will enable BFQ on all
libata devices and any SCSI that is single queue as well, not just
"obscure" stuff like MMC/SD and UBI, and that is
indeed a massive crowd of legacy devices. But we're talking
v4.21 here.

Johannes, you might be interested in $SUBJECT patch.
It'd be nice to hear what SUSE people have to add, since they
are pretty proactive in this area.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03  6:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-02 12:43 [PATCH] block: BFQ default for single queue devices Linus Walleij
2018-10-02 12:43 ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-02 14:31 ` Jens Axboe
2018-10-02 14:31   ` Jens Axboe
2018-10-02 14:45   ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-02 14:45     ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-03  6:29   ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03  6:29     ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03  6:29     ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03  6:53     ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2018-10-03 13:25       ` Jan Kara
2018-10-04  7:45         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-10-04  7:45           ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-10-04  8:24           ` Andreas Herrmann
2018-10-03  7:05     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2018-10-03  7:05       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2018-10-03  7:05       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2018-10-03  7:18       ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-03  7:42         ` Damien Le Moal
2018-10-03  7:42           ` Damien Le Moal
2018-10-03  8:28           ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-03  8:53             ` Damien Le Moal
2018-10-03  8:53               ` Damien Le Moal
2018-10-03  8:53               ` Damien Le Moal
2018-10-03 15:53             ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 15:53               ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 17:34               ` Bryan Gurney
2018-10-04  8:21                 ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-04  9:56                 ` Ulf Hansson
2018-10-03 12:51           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 12:51             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 14:58             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 14:58               ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 15:01               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 15:01                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 15:15                 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 15:15                   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 15:15                   ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-05  6:24                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-05  6:24                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 15:52           ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 15:52             ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 15:52             ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 11:49     ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2018-10-03 11:49       ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2018-10-03 11:49       ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2018-10-03 14:51       ` Mark Brown
2018-10-03 14:51         ` Mark Brown
2018-10-03 15:55       ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 15:55         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 15:55         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 16:00         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 16:00           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 16:00           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 16:04           ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 16:04             ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 16:04             ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-04  7:38         ` Jan Kara
2018-10-04  7:38           ` Jan Kara
2018-10-04  8:14       ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-04 10:13         ` Mark Brown
2018-10-04 15:10           ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-04 15:10             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-04 15:26             ` Mark Brown
2018-10-05  9:49         ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-04  8:25       ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-03 15:54     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 15:54       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 15:54       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 16:02       ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 16:02         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 16:02         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 16:09         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 17:22         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 17:22           ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-04 19:25       ` Alan Cox
2018-10-04 19:25         ` Alan Cox
2018-10-04 20:09         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-04 20:39           ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-04 20:39             ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-04 22:42             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-05  9:16               ` Jan Kara
2018-10-06  3:12                 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-06  6:46                   ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-06  6:46                     ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-06  6:46                     ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-06 16:20                     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-06 16:20                       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-06 16:46                       ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-06 16:46                         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-06 16:46                         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-05  9:28               ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-05  9:28                 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-05  6:24           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2018-10-05  6:24             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2018-10-04 20:19         ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-04 20:19           ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-02 21:28 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-02 21:28   ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-03 15:51 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 15:51   ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 15:51   ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-05  8:04 ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-05  8:04   ` Pavel Machek

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