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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	 peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com, philmd@linaro.org,
	mst@redhat.com,  cohuck@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, maz@kernel.org,  zhenyzha@redhat.com,
	shan.gavin@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/6] hw/arm/virt: Enable backup bitmap for dirty ring
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 11:51:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA9P0MiuRtTDTVCx_1cPxv4yNH=pJSPqO_n=OzDWjx_gOw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0044c64-02f2-32d2-b096-50f9c1f1fe19@redhat.com>

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 at 00:52, Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/23/23 2:54 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > But we might have to for other boards we add later. We shouldn't
> > put code in per-board if it's not really board specific.
> >
> > Moreover, I think "we need the backup bitmap if the kernel is
> > using its GICv3 or ITS implementation" is a kernel implementation
> > detail. It seems to me that it would be cleaner if QEMU didn't
> > have to hardcode "we happen to know that these are the situations
> > when we need to do that". A better API would be "ask the kernel
> > 'do we need this?' and enable it if it says 'yes'". The kernel
> > knows what its implementations of ITS and GICv3 (and perhaps
> > future in-kernel memory-using devices) require, after all.
> >
>
> Well, As we know so far, the backup bitmap extension is only required by 'kvm-arm-gicv3'
> and 'arm-its-kvm' device. Those two devices are only used by virt machine at present.
> So it's a board specific requirement. I'm not sure about the future. We may need to
> enable the extension for other devices and other boards. That time, the requirement
> isn't board specific any more. However, we're uncertain for the future.

Most boards using KVM are likely to want a GICv3, and
probably an ITS too. A board with no interrupt controller
is useless, and the GICv2 is obsolete.

> In order to cover the future requirement, the extension is needed by other boards,
> the best way I can figure out is to enable the extension in generic path in kvm_init()
> if the extension is supported by the host kernel. In this way, the unnecessary overhead
> is introduced for those boards where 'kvm-arm-vgic3' and 'arm-its-kvm' aren't used.
> The overhead should be very small and acceptable. Note that the host kernel don't know
> if 'kvm-arm-vgic3' or 'arm-its-kvm' device is needed by the board in kvm_init(), which
> is the generic path.

We can have a generic hook that happens after board init is
done, if we want to do non-board-specific stuff that happens
later. However I suspect that anybody who cares about migration
performance is likely using a GICv3 at least anyway,
so "enable always" should be fine.

thanks
-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-23 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-13  0:39 [PATCH v1 0/6] hw/arm/virt: Support dirty ring Gavin Shan
2023-02-13  0:39 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] linux-headers: Update for " Gavin Shan
2023-02-21 16:30   ` Peter Maydell
2023-02-21 23:18     ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-22  8:49       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-02-22  9:03         ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-13  0:39 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] migration: Add last stage indicator to global dirty log synchronization Gavin Shan
2023-02-21 17:36   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-21 23:20     ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-13  0:39 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] kvm: Synchronize the backup bitmap in the last stage Gavin Shan
2023-02-21 17:46   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-21 23:44     ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-21 23:58       ` Peter Xu
2023-02-22  6:06         ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-13  0:39 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] kvm: Add helper kvm_dirty_ring_init() Gavin Shan
2023-02-21 20:12   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-13  0:39 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] hw/arm/virt: Enable backup bitmap for dirty ring Gavin Shan
2023-02-21 16:27   ` Peter Maydell
2023-02-22  4:35     ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-22 15:54       ` Peter Maydell
2023-02-23  0:52         ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-23 11:51           ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2023-02-24 10:19             ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-13  0:39 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] kvm: Enable dirty ring for arm64 Gavin Shan
2023-02-17  1:59 ` [PATCH v1 0/6] hw/arm/virt: Support dirty ring Zhenyu Zhang

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