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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	fuse-devel <fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael j Theall" <mtheall@us.ibm.com>,
	"Jean-Pierre André" <jean-pierre.andre@wanadoo.fr>,
	"Nikolaus Rath" <Nikolaus@rath.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 2/2] fuse: Add posix acl support
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 23:09:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegsvLwBh-si9FYMAg8xzb80urXetR0F45=qU36rk8CPHtQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160806015250.GA90790@ubuntu-hedt>

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 06:07:44PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> What I'm not convinced of is that the userspace visible changes in
> behavior won't break someone's software, even if they aren't really
> getting acl enforcement.

That's a key point.  Backward compatibility is important, and not even
hard to do because fuse can negotiate supported features with the
userspace filesystem.

So we can have a new FUSE_POSIX_ACL feature flag in INIT, sent if
"default_permissions" is on.

If not set in INIT reply just pass all xattrs through to the
filesystem.  Caching should not be done. Don't think about whether
it's logical or not, or if anyone could use it for anything sane.
Just do what we are doing currently.  Translating uids still makes
sense, but that's another story.

If the flag is set in INIT reply, then that means userspace filesystem
wants handling of posix acl permission checking in kernel.  It would
also mean that caching of posix acl are allowed (lifetime linked to
attribute lifetime).

If filesystem wants to explicitly disable posix acl support, then it
can reply EOPNOTSUPP to getxattr and setxattr on "system.posix_acl_*".
  Alternatively we can add a FUSE_NO_POSIX_ACL feature flag, that
filesystem can return in reply to FUSE_POSIX_ACL.

I agree that adding CONFIG_FUSE_FS_POSIX_ACL is probably not worth it,
just make any such code dependent on CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL.

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-06 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-01 21:27 [RFC v3 0/2] Support for posix acls in fuse Seth Forshee
2016-08-01 21:27 ` [RFC v3 1/2] fuse: Use generic xattr ops Seth Forshee
2016-08-04 11:09   ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-08-04 14:12     ` Seth Forshee
2016-08-01 21:27 ` [RFC v3 2/2] fuse: Add posix acl support Seth Forshee
2016-08-04 12:11   ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]     ` <CAJfpegtzeJid8tHkz66scDcpCjNEEwtBb4m8MQqq7u+SCdj3dQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-04 12:40       ` Ravishankar N
2016-08-04 14:11     ` Seth Forshee
2016-08-05 23:07       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-06  1:52         ` Seth Forshee
2016-08-06 21:09           ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2016-08-07  3:46             ` Seth Forshee
2016-08-07 12:59               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <87popkrazt.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-07 13:51                   ` Seth Forshee
2016-08-16 20:59     ` Seth Forshee
2016-08-17 12:01       ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-08-01 23:03 ` [RFC v3 0/2] Support for posix acls in fuse Nikolaus Rath
2016-08-02  3:39   ` Seth Forshee
2016-08-02 15:13     ` [fuse-devel] " Michael Theall
2016-08-09  0:00       ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-08-09  0:03 ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-08-09  0:27   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-09 22:44     ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-08-09  7:06   ` Jean-Pierre André

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