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From: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [TF-A] Proposal: TF-A to adopt hand-off blocks (HOBs) for information passing between boot stages
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAODwPW9Rt+V+chCo4eMWYgOjbCP3=MUFN=bpz9hNvPq8=tU1XA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MW2PR0102MB3451C06307A39956BBD62DF2EE749@MW2PR0102MB3451.prod.exchangelabs.com>

> These structures we are talking about may not be defined by the SiP, and
just saying we have SiP specific tags is not good enough.


There is enough room in 64-bits to create separate tag spaces for every
kind of category you can think of. (In fact, we could also just let every
vendor allocate their globally unique tags instead if we prefer that model.
We're not going to have more than 4 billion entities working on this
together, and none of them will need more than 4 billion types of tags.)


> If we use tags, then we must agree on who owns/dictates the tag list, and
> how we add/claim tags for vendor specific purposes and avoid tag
> collisions.
>
>
>
> I have not heard a solution to that without establishing some owner /
> standards body to allocate tags.  Until we do, tags are not going to work
> for the types of platform/system agnostic features we must support.
>

Why not just define the tags in the TF-A upstream repository? Like Simon
said, TF-A needs to maintain a list of them anyway to be able to interpret
them, so why not just make that list the global authoritative source? This
doesn't need to be some complicated bureaucracy. The TF-A headers defining
this are written in a way that they can directly be included from other C
code bases without include dependency issues (e.g. as a Git submodule, or
by just copying them verbatim and resyncing regularly... this is the
include/export thing Manish mentioned). I think that model actually makes
coordination much easier than if a bunch of different projects needed
to manually reimplement the same structure definitions tied to UUIDs.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-08 21:22 UTC|newest]

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2021-03-24 22:35           ` [TF-A] Proposal: TF-A to adopt hand-off blocks (HOBs) for information passing between boot stages Simon Glass
     [not found]           ` <0100017866b46da2-7ac1b1ae-03f2-4048-81f8-bd38fb59b99f-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-03-25  2:42             ` Julius Werner
     [not found]             ` <010001786743f45c-823a9973-7ac5-4f32-bd9d-a5c244d22b31-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-03-26 14:58               ` raghu.ncstate at icloud.com
2021-03-29  7:42                 ` Simon Glass
2021-03-29 10:18                   ` Grant Likely
2021-03-29 22:24                     ` Simon Glass
2021-03-29 23:48                 ` Julius Werner
2021-03-30 19:01                   ` raghu.ncstate at icloud.com
     [not found]             ` <010001786743a2ac-3d2da6df-c6f2-4e19-acaa-628ff7d466c2-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-04-08 11:55               ` Manish Pandey2
2021-04-08 17:24                 ` Harb Abdulhamid OS
2021-04-08 18:19                   ` Simon Glass
2021-04-08 18:58                     ` Mark Kettenis
2021-04-12 15:16                       ` François Ozog
2021-04-08 21:22                   ` Julius Werner [this message]
     [not found]               ` <01000178b1570317-d1af5a40-d575-49ef-9b91-06abe8d04f4b-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-04-08 15:50                 ` François Ozog
2021-04-30 12:13                   ` Manish Pandey2
2021-05-05 17:42                     ` Harb Abdulhamid OS
2021-05-05 22:49                       ` Simon Glass
     [not found]                       ` <010001793ebb08a4-29440b1d-778d-4a80-8def-619c2946e275-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-14 12:29                         ` Okash Khawaja
     [not found]                         ` <010001796adacdd6-3f239ac5-27bb-4c79-a878-30592929b893-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-16 10:18                           ` Joanna Farley
     [not found]                           ` <0100017974aff4fb-0af45782-0b60-4724-b300-822f8fe4b799-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-19  1:57                             ` Madhukar Pappireddy
     [not found]                             ` <0100017982591630-15bf1d32-8f0b-4b2a-bb4d-a2ba39760820-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-19  2:50                               ` Madhukar Pappireddy
2021-05-19 14:33                                 ` Joanna Farley
2021-05-19 14:41                                   ` Joanna Farley
2021-06-02 14:29                                 ` Joanna Farley
2021-06-02 15:26                                   ` Joanna Farley
2021-06-10 21:57                                     ` Manish Pandey2
2021-06-11 11:51                                       ` François Ozog
2021-06-17 19:37                                         ` Simon Glass
2021-06-17 19:47                                           ` François Ozog
2021-07-08 11:18                                             ` Manish Pandey2
2021-07-08 11:48                                               ` François Ozog
     [not found]                                             ` <0100017a8648f3d5-98a3bce6-b2dc-48cb-84e4-c292bcef5622-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-07-08 21:56                                               ` Julius Werner
2021-07-08 22:31                                                 ` Simon Glass
2021-07-09  1:08                                                   ` Julius Werner
2021-07-09  7:05                                                     ` François Ozog
2021-07-09 10:07                                                       ` Daniel Thompson
2021-07-09 15:43                                                         ` Manish Pandey2
2021-07-09 23:06                                                           ` Julius Werner
2021-07-15 14:25                                                             ` François Ozog
2021-07-15 15:03                                                               ` Simon Glass
2021-07-16  2:23                                                                 ` Julius Werner
     [not found]                                           ` <0100017a1b8bea04-71a338d9-55ac-4163-80c9-2c350d62d425-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-06-17 23:45                                             ` raghu.ncstate
2021-06-18 14:43                                               ` Ron Minnich
2021-06-18 16:45                                               ` Simon Glass
2021-06-18 17:17                                               ` Tom Rini
2021-06-21  9:57                                                 ` François Ozog
2021-05-19 21:50                               ` Jeremy Linton
     [not found]                               ` <01000179869c5dac-96846caa-3f3d-4987-8d70-6843f9e46090-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-20  5:34                                 ` François Ozog
2021-05-20 10:34                               ` Julian Hall
2021-05-20 16:42                                 ` Simon Glass
2021-06-21 10:32                                   ` Alexander Graf
2021-06-21 10:38                                     ` François Ozog
     [not found]                             ` <010001798258ec0b-a221c5f8-618a-456c-9068-b7cc44aa9dec-000000@email.amazonses.com>
2021-05-20  5:45                               ` François Ozog

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