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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] phy: core: Move runtime PM reference counting to the parent device
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:50:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFokLc5cQW7RWAsdCY4h_Q8BgHKGQwHVUFX68fWF=BE6_g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0iwR1MnBokL29_QmUw2F6fgNNwzP7WLhtAL37MkMLd1xQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 21 December 2017 at 02:39, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
>> The runtime PM deployment in the phy core is deployed using the phy core
>> device, which is created by the phy core and assigned as a child device of
>> the phy provider device.
>>
>> The behaviour around the runtime PM deployment cause some issues during
>> system suspend, in cases when the phy provider device is put into a low
>> power state via a call to the pm_runtime_force_suspend() helper, as is the
>> case for a Renesas SoC, which has its phy provider device attached to the
>> generic PM domain.
>>
>> In more detail, the problem in this case is that pm_runtime_force_suspend()
>> expects the child device of the provider device, which is the phy core
>> device, to be runtime suspended, else a WARN splat will be printed
>> (correctly) when runtime PM gets re-enabled at system resume.
>
> So we are now trying to work around issues with
> pm_runtime_force_suspend().  Lovely. :-/

Yes, we have to, as pm_runtime_force_suspend() is widely deployed. Or
are you saying we should just ignore all issues related to it?

Of course, if we had something that could replace
pm_runtime_force_suspend(), that would be great, but there isn't.

>
>> In the current scenario, even if a call to phy_power_off() triggers it to
>> invoke pm_runtime_put() during system suspend, the phy core device doesn't
>> get runtime suspended, because this is prevented in the system suspend
>> phases by the PM core.
>>
>> To solve this problem, let's move the runtime PM deployment from the phy
>> core device to the phy provider device, as this provides the similar
>> behaviour. Changing this makes it redundant to enable runtime PM for the
>> phy core device, so let's avoid doing that.
>
> I'm not really convinced that this approach is the best one to be honest.
>
> I'll have a deeper look at this in the next few days, stay tuned.

There is different ways to solve this, for sure. I picked this one,
because I think it's the most trivial thing to do, and it shouldn't
cause any other problems.

I think any other option would involve assigning ->suspend|resume()
callbacks to the phy core device, but that's fine too, if you prefer
that.

Also, I have considered how to deal with wakeup paths for phys,
although I didn't want to post changes as a part of this series, but
maybe I should to give a more complete picture?

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-21 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-20 14:09 [PATCH v2 0/3] phy: core: Re-work runtime PM deployment and fix an issue Ulf Hansson
2017-12-20 14:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] phy: core: Move runtime PM reference counting to the parent device Ulf Hansson
2017-12-21  1:39   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-21 10:50     ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2017-12-23  1:35       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-23  1:50         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-23 12:37         ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-23 12:47           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-23 12:39     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-23 15:09       ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-24 12:00         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-02 13:28           ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-20 14:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] phy: core: Drop unused runtime PM APIs Ulf Hansson
2017-12-21 10:33   ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2017-12-21 10:33     ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2017-12-21 10:57     ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-21 10:57       ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-21 12:24       ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2017-12-21 12:24         ` Yoshihiro Shimoda
2017-12-21 14:23         ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-21 14:23           ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-23  9:55   ` kbuild test robot
2017-12-23  9:55     ` kbuild test robot
2017-12-23 10:08   ` kbuild test robot
2017-12-23 10:08     ` kbuild test robot
2017-12-20 14:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] phy: core: Update the runtime PM section in the docs to reflect changes Ulf Hansson

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