From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Joel Fernandes, Google" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
paulmck <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Fix: trace sched switch start/stop racy updates
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:19:43 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1908161505400.1525-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <241506096.21688.1565977319832.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> If you choose not to use READ_ONCE(), then the "load tearing" issue can
> cause similar spurious 1 -> 0 -> 1 transitions near 16-bit counter
> overflow as described above. The "Invented load" also becomes an issue,
> because the compiler could use the loaded value for a branch, and re-load
> that value between two branches which are expected to use the same value,
> effectively generating a corrupted state.
>
> I think we need a statement about whether READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE should
> be used in this kind of situation, or if we are fine dealing with the
> awkward compiler side-effects when they will occur.
The only real downside (apart from readability) of READ_ONCE and
WRITE_ONCE is that they prevent the compiler from optimizing accesses
to the location being read or written. But if you're just doing a
single access in each place, not multiple accesses, then there's
nothing to optimize anyway. So there's no real reason not to use
READ_ONCE or WRITE_ONCE.
Alan Stern
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-16 19:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-18 10:29 WARNING in tracepoint_probe_register_prio (3) syzbot
2019-08-16 0:11 ` syzbot
2019-08-16 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/1] Fix: trace sched switch start/stop racy updates Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-16 16:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-16 16:48 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-08-16 17:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-16 17:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-16 19:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-16 19:19 ` Alan Stern [this message]
2019-08-16 20:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-16 20:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-16 20:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-16 22:27 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-08-16 22:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-17 1:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-17 4:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-17 8:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-17 8:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-17 15:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-17 20:03 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-08-17 23:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-19 10:34 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-08-17 22:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-20 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-20 20:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-20 20:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-20 20:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-16 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-17 1:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-17 2:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-17 14:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-17 15:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-17 15:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-17 16:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-17 22:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-17 8:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-20 13:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-20 20:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-21 10:32 ` Will Deacon
2019-08-21 13:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-21 13:32 ` Will Deacon
2019-08-21 13:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-21 16:22 ` Will Deacon
2019-08-21 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-21 15:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-21 16:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-21 19:03 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-09-09 6:21 ` Herbert Xu
2019-08-16 20:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-16 20:59 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-17 1:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-18 9:15 ` stable markup was " Pavel Machek
2019-08-16 17:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-16 19:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-17 14:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-17 15:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-17 15:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-08-17 16:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-16 12:32 ` WARNING in tracepoint_probe_register_prio (3) syzbot
2019-08-16 12:41 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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