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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove volatile from nmi.c
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:28:26 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607141017520.5623@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607140757080.5623@g5.osdl.org>



On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Now, there is a "reason" we'd want "endflag" to either be volatile, or 
> have the "set_wmb()", and that is that the code is incorrect in the first 
> place. 

Btw, and this may just be me, but I personally don't much like the 
"set_wmb()" macro. I think it should be removed.

I don't think we actually use it anywhere, and the thing is, it's not 
really useful. It is basically _always_ equivalent to

	var = value;
	smp_wmb();

except I think some architectures could _in_theory_ make the assignment be 
a "store with release consistency". The only architecture where that might 
make sense that I can think of is Itanium, and even there the ia64 
set_wmb() macro doesn't actually do that.

Yeah, the

	endflag = 1;
	smp_wmb();

is a bit longer, but is actually easier to understand, I think.

I suspect "set_wmb()" was added just from an incorrect sense of 
consistency with "set_mb()" (which I don't particularly like either, but 
at least that one makes a difference on a real platform, ie on x86 that 
"set_mb()" ends up being implemented as a single "xchg" instruction).

			Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-14 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-14 13:04 [PATCH] remove volatile from nmi.c Steven Rostedt
2006-07-14 13:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-07-14 15:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-14 16:32   ` Chase Venters
2006-07-14 16:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-14 17:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-14 17:28   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-07-14 17:38     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-14 17:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-14 17:58         ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-14 20:04           ` [PATCH 00/02] remove set_wmb Steven Rostedt
2006-07-14 20:05           ` [PATCH 01/02] remove set_wmb - doc update Steven Rostedt
2006-07-15  2:22             ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-07-15  2:35               ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-14 20:05           ` [PATCH 02/02] remove set_wmb - arch removal Steven Rostedt

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