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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Christopher Clark <christopher.w.clark@gmail.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Smith" <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com>,
	Julien Grall <jgrall@amazon.com>,
	Julien Grall <Julien.grall.oss@gmail.com>, <iwj@xenproject.org>,
	Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, Rich Persaud <persaur@gmail.com>,
	Bertrand Marquis <Bertrand.Marquis@arm.com>,
	<luca.fancellu@arm.com>, <paul@xen.org>,
	Adam Schwalm <adam.schwalm@starlab.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] docs/designs/launch: hyperlaunch design document
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 09:32:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFxKjeGGTG5naH/I@Air-de-Roger> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACMJ4GZMNfbCjTKR5ngQBMwwAfUnSOptP+UJV8BcNqKAUy9Row@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 05:53:26AM -0700, Christopher Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 1:01 AM Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:39:53AM -0700, Christopher Clark wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:43 AM Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
> > If you offload domain creation of guests with
> > pci-passthrough devices to a control domain and/or hardware domain,
> > I'm not sure I see the difference from normal domain creation, ie:
> > it's no longer something specific to hyperlaunch, as I could achieve
> > the same by using the existing xendomains init script.
> 
> So that's not what we've proposed, and hopefully not what we'll need to do.
> 
> Do you know if there is a need to perform work to support the
> assignment of PCI devices at the point of domain creation (ie. in
> domain_create), rather than handling it in a later step of domain
> configuration, prior to the domain being started?

So while I think you could indeed create a domain from the hypervisor
in a paused state and attach the pci devices later from a
control/hardware domain, I don't see much benefit in doing it. If you
need to end up waiting for a control/hardware domain to attach the
devices and unpause you might as well do the whole domain creation
from such control/hardware domain.

Is this split done because the control/hardware domain would have a
very strict set of permissions only allowing attachment of pci
devices but not domain creation?

I think the permissions required by a control/hardware domain to
attach a pci device to another guests would end up being fairly
similar to the ones required to just create a domain from scratch,
because a pci attachment requires modifications to the p2m.

Thanks, Roger.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-25  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-16  3:18 [PATCH 0/2] Introducing hyperlaunch capability design (formerly: DomB mode of dom0less) Daniel P. Smith
2021-03-16  3:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs/designs/launch: hyperlaunch design document Daniel P. Smith
2021-03-18 16:43   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-03-23 17:39     ` Christopher Clark
2021-03-24  8:01       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-03-24 12:53         ` Christopher Clark
2021-03-24 13:15           ` George Dunlap
2021-03-24 19:10           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-03-25  8:07             ` Jan Beulich
2021-03-25  8:32           ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2021-03-25  9:14             ` George Dunlap
2021-03-25  9:49               ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-03-25 16:55                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-04-07 20:14                   ` Christopher Clark
2021-03-16  3:18 ` [PATCH] docs/designs/launch: hyperlaunch device tree Daniel P. Smith
2021-03-16  3:56 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introducing hyperlaunch capability design (formerly: DomB mode of dom0less) Daniel P. Smith
2021-03-30 14:31   ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-07 19:23     ` Christopher Clark
2021-04-08  5:56       ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-15 22:33         ` Christopher Clark

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