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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Gregory Anders" <greg@gpanders.com>,
	"Đoàn Trần Công Danh" <congdanhqx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] send-email: various optimizations to speed up by >2x
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 03:49:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJzZ8aSbt4ycX4ZH@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg2rrsg1.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 09:37:36AM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> > My only concern is changing the interface of Git::config_regexp() in the
> > final patch. Do we need to have a config_regexp_with_values() to avoid
> > breaking third-party users of the module?
> 
> As noted in 3/9 I don't think we need to worry about it, it's recently
> introduced (a few months) API in Git.pm for send-email itself. I think
> we can just change it.

Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I _thought_ I had seen you mention it
earlier, but when I went back to look I couldn't find it.

I'm not entirely convinced, though. I agree it's probably not heavily
used, but the existing interface was shipped in three releases already
(v2.29 and up).

> In general I think it's unfortunate that we have (at least in principle)
> a "public by default" module like Git.pm that's mostly for our own use.

I'd certainly agree with that sentiment. :)

> This series doesn't try to deal with that in general at all, I'm
> somewhat of the opinion that we should just fork it at this
> point. I.e. have a Git.pm we freeze in time, and a Git/Ours.pm that's
> going to be the private API.
> 
> I stopped with these optimizations at the point of refactoring away
> Error.pm, which is a large contributor to compilation time, but as long
> as it's a public API that can't be done without changing the public
> API. If all we needed to worry about was send-email, git-svn etc. just
> changing it to Perl-native exceptions would be trivial.

Yeah, I don't have any real problem with that, as long as we don't break
third-party scripts that we've promised not to. I'd even be OK with
deprecating Git.pm and eventually phasing it out, if we think it's a
maintenance burden.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-12 13:48 [PATCH 0/9] send-email: various optimizations to speed up by >2x Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 1/9] send-email: remove non-working support for "sendemail.smtpssl" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 15:46   ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/9] send-email: refactor sendemail.smtpencryption config parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 3/9] send-email: lazily load config for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 4/9] send-email: lazily shell out to "git var" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 5/9] send-email: use function syntax instead of barewords Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 23:11   ` Jeff King
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 6/9] send-email: get rid of indirect object syntax Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 7/9] send-email: lazily load modules for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 8/9] perl: lazily load some common Git.pm setup code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 18:05   ` Eric Wong
2021-05-12 13:48 ` [PATCH 9/9] send-email: move trivial config handling to Perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 19:52   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-12 23:08   ` Jeff King
2021-05-13  7:04     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13  7:07       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-13  7:26       ` Jeff King
2021-05-13  8:15         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13 11:45           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-12 18:04 ` [PATCH 0/9] send-email: various optimizations to speed up by >2x Eric Wong
2021-05-12 23:34 ` Jeff King
2021-05-12 23:36 ` Jeff King
2021-05-13  7:37   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-13  7:49     ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-05-20  8:18 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:18   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] send-email: remove non-working support for "sendemail.smtpssl" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:18   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] send-email: refactor sendemail.smtpencryption config parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] send-email: lazily load config for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] send-email: lazily shell out to "git var" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] send-email: use function syntax instead of barewords Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] send-email: get rid of indirect object syntax Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] send-email: lazily load modules for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] perl: lazily load some common Git.pm setup code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] send-email: move trivial config handling to Perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] perl: nano-optimize by replacing Cwd::cwd() with Cwd::getcwd() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-20  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 00/10] send-email: various optimizations to speed up by >2x Jeff King
2021-05-20 23:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-21  6:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-21  7:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-21  9:13         ` Jeff King
2021-05-21  9:24           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-21  9:37             ` Jeff King
2021-05-28 15:49         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  8:19           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-29 14:53             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-30 11:33               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-30 16:07                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-28 15:12     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-23  8:56   ` [PATCH v3 00/13] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 01/13] send-email tests: support GIT_TEST_PERL_FATAL_WARNINGS=true Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 02/13] send-email tests: test for boolean variables without a value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 03/13] send-email: remove non-working support for "sendemail.smtpssl" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 04/13] send-email: refactor sendemail.smtpencryption config parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 05/13] send-email: copy "config_regxp" into git-send-email.perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 06/13] send-email: lazily load config for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 07/13] send-email: lazily shell out to "git var" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 08/13] send-email: use function syntax instead of barewords Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 09/13] send-email: get rid of indirect object syntax Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 10/13] send-email: lazily load modules for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 11/13] perl: lazily load some common Git.pm setup code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 12/13] send-email: move trivial config handling to Perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-23  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 13/13] perl: nano-optimize by replacing Cwd::cwd() with Cwd::getcwd() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  1:15     ` [PATCH v3 00/13] send-email: various optimizations to speed up by >2x Junio C Hamano
2021-05-24  7:52     ` [PATCH v4 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 01/13] send-email tests: support GIT_TEST_PERL_FATAL_WARNINGS=true Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 02/13] send-email tests: test for boolean variables without a value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 03/13] send-email: remove non-working support for "sendemail.smtpssl" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 04/13] send-email: refactor sendemail.smtpencryption config parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 05/13] send-email: copy "config_regxp" into git-send-email.perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 06/13] send-email: lazily load config for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 07/13] send-email: lazily shell out to "git var" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 08/13] send-email: use function syntax instead of barewords Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 09/13] send-email: get rid of indirect object syntax Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:52       ` [PATCH v4 10/13] send-email: lazily load modules for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-27  1:11         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-27 11:36           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:53       ` [PATCH v4 11/13] perl: lazily load some common Git.pm setup code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24  7:53       ` [PATCH v4 12/13] send-email: move trivial config handling to Perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-27 15:57         ` Jeff King
2021-05-24  7:53       ` [PATCH v4 13/13] perl: nano-optimize by replacing Cwd::cwd() with Cwd::getcwd() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-27 16:00       ` [PATCH v4 00/13] send-email: various optimizations to speed up by >2x Jeff King
2021-05-28  9:23       ` [PATCH v5 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 01/13] send-email tests: support GIT_TEST_PERL_FATAL_WARNINGS=true Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 02/13] send-email tests: test for boolean variables without a value Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-10 23:23           ` Jeff King
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 03/13] send-email: remove non-working support for "sendemail.smtpssl" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 04/13] send-email: refactor sendemail.smtpencryption config parsing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 05/13] send-email: copy "config_regxp" into git-send-email.perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 06/13] send-email: lazily load config for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 07/13] send-email: lazily shell out to "git var" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 08/13] send-email: use function syntax instead of barewords Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28 16:10           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  8:17             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-29 14:25               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 09/13] send-email: get rid of indirect object syntax Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 10/13] send-email: lazily load modules for a big speedup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28 15:55           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  8:12             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-29 14:24               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 11/13] perl: lazily load some common Git.pm setup code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 12/13] send-email: move trivial config handling to Perl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28  9:23         ` [PATCH v5 13/13] perl: nano-optimize by replacing Cwd::cwd() with Cwd::getcwd() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-28 16:13         ` [PATCH v5 00/13] send-email: various optimizations to speed up by >2x Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  5:48         ` Jeff King
2021-05-31  9:53           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-31 14:38             ` Jeff King
2021-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH 0/9] " Elijah Newren

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