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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Zeng" <jason.zeng@linux.intel.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 07/22] cpr
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:42:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YKPEWicpOeh3yo5/@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <881e5c07-8582-478c-9c13-47b1967cd3da@oracle.com>

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On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 11:14:44AM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 5/14/2021 7:28 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 04:21:02PM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
> >> On 5/12/2021 12:19 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>> On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 05:25:05AM -0700, Steve Sistare wrote:
> >>>> To use the restart mode, qemu must be started with the memfd-alloc machine
> >>>> option.  The memfd's are saved to the environment and kept open across exec,
> >>>> after which they are found from the environment and re-mmap'd.  Hence guest
> >>>> ram is preserved in place, albeit with new virtual addresses in the qemu
> >>>> process.  The caller resumes the guest by calling cprload, which loads
> >>>> state from the file.  If the VM was running at cprsave time, then VM
> >>>> execution resumes.  cprsave supports any type of guest image and block
> >>>> device, but the caller must not modify guest block devices between cprsave
> >>>> and cprload.
> >>>
> >>> Does QEMU's existing -object memory-backend-file on tmpfs or hugetlbfs
> >>> achieve the same thing?
> >>
> >> Not quite.  Various secondary anonymous memory objects are allocated via ram_block_add
> >> and must be preserved, such as these on x86_64.  
> >>   vga.vram
> >>   pc.ram
> >>   pc.bios
> >>   pc.rom
> >>   vga.rom
> >>   rom@etc/acpi/tables
> >>   rom@etc/table-loader
> >>   rom@etc/acpi/rsdp
> >>
> >> Even the read-only areas must be preserved rather than recreated from files in the updated
> >> qemu, as their contents may have changed.
> > 
> > Migration knows how to save/load these RAM blocks. Only pc.ram is
> > significant in size so I'm not sure it's worth special-casing the
> > others?
> 
> Some of these are mapped for vfio dma as a consequence of the normal memory region callback to
> consumers code.  We get conflict errors vs those existing vfio mappings if they are recreated 
> and remapped in the new process.  The memfd option is a simple and robust solution to that issue.

Okay, if the VFIO device DMAs to them then they need to stay alive. Live
migration cannot copy their contents since they could be DMAed to at any
time and we'd copy stale data.

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-07 12:24 [PATCH V3 00/22] Live Update Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:24 ` [PATCH V3 01/22] as_flat_walk Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 02/22] qemu_ram_volatile Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 03/22] oslib: qemu_clr_cloexec Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 04/22] util: env var helpers Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 05/22] machine: memfd-alloc option Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 06/22] vl: add helper to request re-exec Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 14:31   ` Eric Blake
2021-05-13 20:19     ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-14  8:18       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-05-12 16:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-05-13 20:20     ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 07/22] cpr Steve Sistare
2021-05-12 16:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-05-13 20:21     ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-14 11:28       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-05-14 15:14         ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-18 13:42           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 08/22] cpr: QMP interfaces Steve Sistare
2021-06-04 13:59   ` Eric Blake
2021-06-07 17:19     ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 09/22] cpr: HMP interfaces Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 10/22] pci: export functions for cpr Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 11/22] vfio-pci: refactor " Steve Sistare
2021-05-19 22:38   ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-21 13:33     ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-21 21:07       ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-21 21:18         ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 12/22] vfio-pci: cpr part 1 Steve Sistare
2021-05-21 22:24   ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-24 18:29     ` Steven Sistare
2021-06-11 18:15       ` Steven Sistare
2021-06-11 19:43         ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 13/22] vfio-pci: cpr part 2 Steve Sistare
2021-05-21 22:24   ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-24 18:31     ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 14/22] vhost: reset vhost devices upon cprsave Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 15/22] hostmem-memfd: cpr support Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 16/22] chardev: cpr framework Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 14:33   ` Eric Blake
2021-05-13 20:19     ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 17/22] chardev: cpr for simple devices Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 18/22] chardev: cpr for pty Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 19/22] chardev: cpr for sockets Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 20/22] cpr: only-cpr-capable option Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 21/22] cpr: maintainers Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 12:25 ` [PATCH V3 22/22] simplify savevm Steve Sistare
2021-05-07 13:00 ` [PATCH V3 00/22] Live Update no-reply
2021-05-13 20:42   ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-12 16:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-05-13 20:21   ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-14 11:53     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-05-14 15:15       ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-17 11:40         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-05-17 19:10           ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-18 13:39             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-05-18 15:48               ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-18  9:57         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-05-18 16:00           ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-18 19:23             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-05-18 20:01               ` Alex Williamson
2021-05-18 20:14               ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-20 13:00                 ` [PATCH V3 00/22] Live Update [reboot] Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-05-21 14:55                   ` Steven Sistare
2021-06-15 19:14                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-06-24 15:05                       ` Steven Sistare
2021-07-06 17:31                         ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-20 13:13                 ` [PATCH V3 00/22] Live Update [restart] Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-05-21 14:56                   ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-24 10:39                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-06-02 13:51                       ` Steven Sistare
2021-06-03 19:36                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-06-03 20:44                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-07 16:40                             ` [PATCH V3 00/22] Live Update [restart] : exec Steven Sistare
2021-06-14 14:31                               ` Steven Sistare
2021-06-14 14:36                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-15 19:05                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-06-07 18:08                           ` [PATCH V3 00/22] Live Update [restart] : code replication Steven Sistare
2021-06-14 14:33                             ` Steven Sistare
2021-05-19 16:43 ` [PATCH V3 00/22] Live Update Steven Sistare
2021-06-02 15:19   ` Steven Sistare

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