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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][CFT][PATCHSET] iov_iter stuff
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:32:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrTNyvGZhXZEULA0@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1937818.1655997712@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 04:21:52PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 13/44: splice: stop abusing iov_iter_advance() to flush a pipe
> > 	A really odd (ab)use of iov_iter_advance() - in case of error
> > generic_file_splice_read() wants to free all pipe buffers ->read_iter()
> > has produced.  Yes, forcibly resetting ->head and ->iov_offset to
> > original values and calling iov_iter_advance(i, 0) will trigger
> > pipe_advance(), which will trigger pipe_truncate(), which will free
> > buffers.  Or we could just go ahead and free the same buffers;
> > pipe_discard_from() does exactly that, no iov_iter stuff needs to
> > be involved.
> 
> Can ->splice_read() and ->splice_write() be given pipe-class iov_iters rather
> than pipe_inode_info structs?

Huh?

First of all, ->splice_write() is given a pipe as data _source_, which makes
ITER_PIPE completely irrelevant - those suckers are data destinations.
What's more, it will unlock the pipe, wait and relock once somebody writes
to that pipe.  And ITER_PIPE very much relies upon the pipe being locked
and staying locked.

As for ->splice_read()...  We could create the iov_iter in the caller, but...
Look at those callers:
        pipe_lock(opipe);
	ret = wait_for_space(opipe, flags);
	if (!ret)
		ret = do_splice_to(in, offset, opipe, len, flags);
	pipe_unlock(opipe);

You can't set it up before wait_for_pace(), obviously - if there's no
empty slots, what would that sucker work with?  And you can't keep
it past pipe_unlock().  So it's limited to do_splice_to(), which
is a very thin wrapper for ->splice_read().  So what's the point?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-23 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-22  4:10 [RFC][CFT][PATCHSET] iov_iter stuff Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15 ` [PATCH 01/44] 9p: handling Rerror without copy_from_iter_full() Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 02/44] No need of likely/unlikely on calls of check_copy_size() Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 03/44] teach iomap_dio_rw() to suppress dsync Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 04/44] btrfs: use IOMAP_DIO_NOSYNC Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 05/44] struct file: use anonymous union member for rcuhead and llist Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 06/44] iocb: delay evaluation of IS_SYNC(...) until we want to check IOCB_DSYNC Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 07/44] keep iocb_flags() result cached in struct file Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 08/44] copy_page_{to,from}_iter(): switch iovec variants to generic Al Viro
2022-06-27 18:31     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-28 12:32     ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-28 18:36       ` Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 09/44] new iov_iter flavour - ITER_UBUF Al Viro
2022-06-27 18:47     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-28 18:41       ` Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:38     ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-28 18:44       ` Al Viro
2022-07-28  9:55     ` [PATCH 9/44] " Alexander Gordeev
2022-07-29 17:21       ` Al Viro
2022-07-29 21:12         ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-07-30  0:03           ` Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 10/44] switch new_sync_{read,write}() to ITER_UBUF Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 11/44] iov_iter_bvec_advance(): don't bother with bvec_iter Al Viro
2022-06-27 18:48     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-28 12:40     ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 12/44] fix short copy handling in copy_mc_pipe_to_iter() Al Viro
2022-06-27 19:15     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-28 12:42     ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 13/44] splice: stop abusing iov_iter_advance() to flush a pipe Al Viro
2022-06-27 19:17     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-28 12:43     ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 14/44] ITER_PIPE: helper for getting pipe buffer by index Al Viro
2022-06-28 10:38     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-28 12:45     ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 15/44] ITER_PIPE: helpers for adding pipe buffers Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:32     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 16/44] ITER_PIPE: allocate buffers as we go in copy-to-pipe primitives Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 17/44] ITER_PIPE: fold push_pipe() into __pipe_get_pages() Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 18/44] ITER_PIPE: lose iter_head argument of __pipe_get_pages() Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 19/44] ITER_PIPE: clean pipe_advance() up Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 20/44] ITER_PIPE: clean iov_iter_revert() Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 21/44] ITER_PIPE: cache the type of last buffer Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 22/44] ITER_PIPE: fold data_start() and pipe_space_for_user() together Al Viro
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 23/44] iov_iter_get_pages{,_alloc}(): cap the maxsize with MAX_RW_COUNT Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:41     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 24/44] iov_iter_get_pages_alloc(): lift freeing pages array on failure exits into wrapper Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:45     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 25/44] iov_iter_get_pages(): sanity-check arguments Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:47     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 26/44] unify pipe_get_pages() and pipe_get_pages_alloc() Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:49     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 27/44] unify xarray_get_pages() and xarray_get_pages_alloc() Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:50     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 28/44] unify the rest of iov_iter_get_pages()/iov_iter_get_pages_alloc() guts Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:54     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 29/44] ITER_XARRAY: don't open-code DIV_ROUND_UP() Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:54     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 30/44] iov_iter: lift dealing with maxpages out of first_{iovec,bvec}_segment() Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:56     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 31/44] iov_iter: first_{iovec,bvec}_segment() - simplify a bit Al Viro
2022-06-28 11:58     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 32/44] iov_iter: massage calling conventions for first_{iovec,bvec}_segment() Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:06     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 33/44] found_iovec_segment(): just return address Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:09     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 34/44] fold __pipe_get_pages() into pipe_get_pages() Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:11     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 35/44] iov_iter: saner helper for page array allocation Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:12     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 36/44] iov_iter: advancing variants of iov_iter_get_pages{,_alloc}() Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:13     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 37/44] block: convert to " Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:16     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-30 22:11     ` [block.git conflicts] " Al Viro
2022-06-30 22:39       ` Al Viro
2022-07-01  2:07         ` Keith Busch
2022-07-01 17:40           ` Al Viro
2022-07-01 17:53             ` Keith Busch
2022-07-01 18:07               ` Al Viro
2022-07-01 18:12                 ` Al Viro
2022-07-01 18:38                   ` Keith Busch
2022-07-01 19:08                     ` Al Viro
2022-07-01 19:28                       ` Keith Busch
2022-07-01 19:43                         ` Al Viro
2022-07-01 19:56                           ` Keith Busch
2022-07-02  5:35                             ` Al Viro
2022-07-02 21:02                               ` Keith Busch
2022-07-01 19:05                 ` Keith Busch
2022-07-01 21:30             ` Jens Axboe
2022-06-30 23:07       ` Jens Axboe
2022-07-10 18:04     ` Sedat Dilek
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 38/44] iter_to_pipe(): switch to advancing variant of iov_iter_get_pages() Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:18     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 39/44] af_alg_make_sg(): " Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:18     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 40/44] 9p: convert to advancing variant of iov_iter_get_pages_alloc() Al Viro
2022-07-01  9:01     ` Dominique Martinet
2022-07-01 13:47     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-07-06 22:06       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 41/44] ceph: switch the last caller " Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:20     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 42/44] get rid of non-advancing variants Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:21     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 43/44] pipe_get_pages(): switch to append_pipe() Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:23     ` Jeff Layton
2022-06-22  4:15   ` [PATCH 44/44] expand those iov_iter_advance() Al Viro
2022-06-28 12:23     ` Jeff Layton
2022-07-01  6:21   ` [PATCH 01/44] 9p: handling Rerror without copy_from_iter_full() Dominique Martinet
2022-07-01  6:25   ` Dominique Martinet
2022-07-01 16:02     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-07-01 21:00       ` Dominique Martinet
2022-07-03 13:30         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-08-01 12:42   ` [PATCH 09/44] new iov_iter flavour - ITER_UBUF David Howells
2022-08-01 21:14     ` Al Viro
2022-08-01 22:54     ` David Howells
2022-06-23 15:21 ` [RFC][CFT][PATCHSET] iov_iter stuff David Howells
2022-06-23 20:32   ` Al Viro [this message]
2022-06-28 12:25 ` Jeff Layton

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