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From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
Cc: "Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/7] module: Improve support for asynchronous module exit code
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:02:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YzOPJHSQsPtc5o0Y@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a4084b27-dd2d-10df-493c-35998eed664c@acm.org>

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:13:40AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 9/14/22 15:56, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > Some kernel modules call device_del() from their module exit code and
> > schedule asynchronous work from inside the .release callback without waiting
> > until that callback has finished. As an example, many SCSI LLD drivers call
> > scsi_remove_host() from their module exit code. scsi_remove_host() may
> > invoke scsi_device_dev_release_usercontext() asynchronously.
> > scsi_device_dev_release_usercontext() uses the host template pointer and
> > that pointer usually exists in static storage in the SCSI LLD. Support
> > using the module reference count to keep the module around until
> > asynchronous module exiting has completed by waiting in the delete_module()
> > system call until the module reference count drops to zero.
> 
> Hi Luis,
> 
> I'd like to know your opinion about this patch since you are the maintainer
> of the kernel module system.

See this patch which extends the documentation of try_module_get():

https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20211029184500.2821444-7-mcgrof@kernel.org

You can ignore discussion around the thread as sadly it is just
irrelevant stuff not about that patch. But the logic it spells out
is still true.

So, in short, using try_module_get() on exit is actually the wrong
thing to do and it is no surprise it would fail. I haven't gotten
yet around to reviewing Mauro's driver API which let's you unbind
drivers, but it sounds related so I CC'd you on that.

So I'd like to ask instead if an alternative to using try_module_get()
on exit would be better here and for the future.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-28  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-14 22:56 [PATCH v5 0/7] Prepare for constifying SCSI host templates Bart Van Assche
2022-09-14 22:56 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] scsi: esas2r: Initialize two host template members implicitly Bart Van Assche
2022-09-14 22:56 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] scsi: esas2r: Introduce scsi_template_proc_dir() Bart Van Assche
2022-09-14 22:56 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] scsi: core: Fail host creation if creating the proc directory fails Bart Van Assche
2022-09-15 10:24   ` John Garry
2022-09-14 22:56 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] scsi: core: Introduce a new list for SCSI proc directory entries Bart Van Assche
2022-09-15 10:34   ` John Garry
2022-09-29 17:51     ` Bart Van Assche
2022-09-14 22:56 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] scsi: core: Fix a use-after-free related to releasing device handlers Bart Van Assche
2022-09-14 22:56 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] module: Improve support for asynchronous module exit code Bart Van Assche
2022-09-20 17:13   ` Bart Van Assche
2022-09-28  0:02     ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2022-09-28 18:17       ` Bart Van Assche
2022-09-30 19:39         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-10-03 23:56           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-10-04  0:24             ` Bart Van Assche
2022-09-28  1:09   ` Ming Lei
2022-09-28 19:27     ` Bart Van Assche
2022-09-29  1:10       ` Ming Lei
2022-09-29 17:27         ` Bart Van Assche
2022-09-14 22:56 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] scsi: core: Improve SCSI device removal Bart Van Assche

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